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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: Yes, at times
M.: Who feels that she is away from the master, just now?
D.: The Higher Self.
M.: Does the Higher Self have a body and say that the master is
away from it? Does it speak through your mouth? Are you apart
from that?
D.: Can you kindly advise me how I can train myself to be aware of
what I do even without the body, as in sleep?
M.: Awareness is your nature. In deep sleep or in waking, it is the
same. How can it be gained afresh?
D.: But I do not remember what and how I did in my sleep.
M.: Who says “I do not remember”?
D.: I say now.
M.: You were the same then; why do you not say so in sleep?
D.: I do not remember what I say in sleep.
M.: You say, “I know, I remember”, in the wakeful state. This same
personality says “I did not know - I did not remember in sleep”.
Why does not this question arise in sleep?
D.: I do not know what happens in sleep. That is the reason I ask
now.
M.: The question affects the sleeping phase and must be raised there.
It does not affect the waking phase and there is no apparent reason
for this question.
The fact is that you have no limitations in sleep and no question
arises. Whereas now you put on limitations, identify yourself with
the body and questions of this kind arise.
D.: I understand it, but do not realise it (i.e. unity in variety).
M.: Because you are in variety, you say you understand unity - that you
have flashes, etc., remember things, etc.; you consider this variety
to be real. On the other hand Unity is the reality, and the variety is
false. The variety must go before unity reveals itself - its reality.
It is always real. It does not send flashes of its being in this false
variety. On the contrary, this variety obstructs the truth.
Then some others pursued the conversation.
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