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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
M.: Does anyone say “I must come into being before or after some age?”
He is here and now. Statements like this are misleading because people
come to believe that they cannot realise the Self in this incarnation and
must needs take chances in another. It is all absurd.
Talk 339.
With regard to Siva Visishtadvaita, (i.e., Saiva Siddhanta), Sri Bhagavan
said: Garudoham bhavana ‘I am Garuda’ - conception does not make a
garuda of a man. All the same the poisonous effects of snake-bite are
cured. Similarly with Sivoham bhavana (I-am-Siva) conception also.
One is not transformed into Siva, but the ruinous effects of the ego are
put an end to. Or the person retains his individuality but remains pure,
i.e., fit for constituting a part of the body of Siva. Becoming so he can
enjoy the Supreme Bliss. That is liberation - say the Saiva Siddhantis.
This simply betrays the love of their individuality and is in no way the
true experience of liberation.
Talk 340.
Mr. Bose began, “After the return of body-consciousness ...”
M.: What is body-consciousness? Tell us that first. Who are you
apart from consciousness? Body is found because there is bodyconsciousness
which arises from ‘I-consciousness’ which again
rises from consciousness.
Consciousness → ‘I-consciousness’ → body-consciousness →
body.
There is always consciousness and nothing but that. What you are
now considering to be body-consciousness is due to superimposition.
If there is only consciousness and nothing but it, the meaning of the
Scripture Atmanastu kamaya sarvam priyam bhavati - (All are dear
because of the love of the Self) becomes clear.
A question arises, why there should be suicides in that case.
Why does one do it? Because he is unhappy and desires to put
an end to his unhappiness. He actually does it by ending the
association with the body which represents all unhappiness.
For there must be a killer to kill the body. He is the survivor after
suicide. That is the Self.
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