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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Is that what you have learnt from the Gita? Does He not say that<br />

He is eternal? Of what are you thinking, His body?<br />

D.: He taught others while alive. Those around Him must have<br />

realised. I seek a similar living Guru.<br />

M.: Is Gita then useless after He <strong>with</strong>drew His body? Did He speak<br />

of His body as Krishna?<br />

Natwewaham jatu nasam ... (Never I was not....)<br />

D.: But I want a living Guru who can say the truth first hand.<br />

M.: The fate of the Guru will be similar to the fate of Krishna.<br />

The questioner retired. Later, <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said: Divine sight means<br />

Self-luminosity. The world divya shows it. The full word means<br />

the Self. Who is to bestow a divine eye? And who is to see? Again,<br />

people read in the books, “hearing, reflection and one-pointedness<br />

are necessary”. They think that they must pass through savikalpa<br />

samadhi and nirvikalpa samadhi before attaining Realisation.<br />

Hence all these questions. Why should they wander in that maze?<br />

What do they gain at the end? It is only cessation of the trouble of<br />

seeking. They find that the Self is eternal and self-evident. Why<br />

should they not get that repose even this moment?<br />

A simple man, not learned, is satisfied <strong>with</strong> japa or worship. A Jnani<br />

is of course satisfied. The whole trouble is for the book-worms.<br />

Well, well. They will also get on.<br />

Talk 337.<br />

Mr K. R. V. Iyer: How is the mind to be purified?<br />

M.: The sastras say: “By karma, bhakti and so on”. My attendant<br />

asked the same question once before. He was told, “By karma<br />

dedicated to God”. It is not enough that one thinks of God while<br />

doing the karma, but one must continually and unceasingly think<br />

of Him. Then alone will the mind become pure.<br />

The attendant applies it to himself and says, “It is not enough that I serve<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan physically. But I must unceasingly remember Him”.<br />

To another person, who asked the same question, Bhagavan said:<br />

Quest of the Self, meaning, ‘I am-the-body’ idea must vanish. (Atma<br />

vichara = disappearance of dehatma buddhi).<br />

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