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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: How is that ‘I-thought’ to be checked from rising?
M.: By Self-quest.
D.: I try to understand but without success. Can I find the Self by
means of japa? If so, please tell me how.
M.: What japa? Why should you make artificial Japa? You can find
out the eternal and natural japa always going on within you.
D.: Some upadesh will probably help me.
M.: If I say “Do - Rama, Rama” to one who has not struggled through
books like you, he will do it and stick to it. If I say so to one like
you who have read much and are investigating matters, you will
not do it for long, because you will think, “Why should I do it?
Above all, who am I that should be repeating the mantra? Let me
find who I am before I proceed further”; and so you will stop japa
and begin investigation.
D.: It is said: The senses are out-going (paranchikhani); inward
turned (is) sight (avrittachakshuh). What is avrittachakshuh
(inward-turned sight)?
M.: It does not mean replacement of the eyeball in the opposite
direction. What is chakshuh?
D.: The eye.
M.: Does the eye see or is it someone behind the eye that sees? If the
eye could see, then does a corpse see? The one who is behind the
eye sees through the eye. He is meant by the word chakshuh.
D.: Divya chakshuh is necessary to see the glory of God. This physical
eye is the ordinary chakshuh.
M.: Oh! I see. You want to see million-sun-splendour and the rest
of it!
D.: Can we not see the glory as million-sun-splendour?
M.: Can you see the single sun? Why do you ask for millions of suns?
D.: It must be possible to do so by divine sight. “Where the sun shines
not, etc. That is My Supreme abode”. Therefore there is a state
where this sun is powerless. That state is that of God.
M.: All right. Find Krishna and the problem is solved.
D.: Krishna is not alive.
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