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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
the adhishthana of Jiva is one; that of Isvara is another; how can
these two adhishthanas become one? He replies, there are the same
adhara for both the adhishthanas.
Furthermore he mentions several khyatis;
(1) asat-khyati: rope being present, there appears the snake which
is not present there.
(2) sat-khyati: rope itself looking like snake.
(3) atma-khyati: rope remaining unidentified, the remembrance of
snake, formerly seen elsewhere, creates the illusion.
(4) akhyati: totally unreal.
(5) anayatha-khyati: mental image of snake projected and seen as
if it were in front of oneself.
(6) anirvachaniya-khyati: inexplicable.
Here he raises the question: Should the world be any one of these,
whether illusory or unreal; it must be the result of previous experience.
It must have been real at that time: real once, must be real always.
He answers it: the experience need not necessarily be real; not having
seen a real snake, but only seeing a picture of it and gaining an impression,
one can mistake a rope to be a snake. Thus the world need not be real.
Why waste time in such polemics? Only turn your mind inward
and spend the time usefully.
In the union of the individual with the Supreme, the Supreme is
hearsay and the individual directly experienced. You can make use
only of direct experience; therefore look who you are.
Why is Isvara mentioned then?
Because you see the world and want to know how it came into
being. They say that it was created by God. If you know that He
created you and all else, your mind is a little satisfied and becomes
less restless than otherwise. But it is not realisation. It can be only
if you realise yourself; this is Perfection or Realisation, etc.
To resume polemics - the author of Vritti Prabhakara claims to have
studied 350,000 books before writing this book. What is the use?
Can they bring in Realisation of the Self? Vichara Sagara is full
of logic and technical terms. Can these ponderous volumes serve
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