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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: I understand the general truth of it. But there must be a practical<br />

method for it which I call ‘science’.<br />

M.: The cessation of such thoughts is the realisation of the Self.<br />

Illustration: the necklace supposed lost. One does not see the world<br />

or one’s own body, being away from the Self. Always being the Self,<br />

one sees everything else. God and the world are all in the Heart. See<br />

the Seer and everything will be found to be the Self. Change your<br />

outlook. Look <strong>with</strong>in. Find the Self. Who is the substratum of the<br />

subject and the object? Find it and all problems are solved.<br />

The lady was then told of the pamphlet, Who am I? She agreed to<br />

read it before asking further questions of <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan.<br />

Talk 332.<br />

D.: What are the three voids (Muppazh) () in Tamil?<br />

M.: (1) Tat = Isvara turiya.<br />

(2) tvam = jiva turiya.<br />

(3) asi = asi turiya.<br />

Turiya is the substratum of the waking, dream and sleep states.<br />

D.: The first two are all right; what is the third?<br />

M.: All-pervasiveness is said to be the waking;<br />

all-shining is said to be the dream;<br />

perfection (ananta) is said to be the sleep;<br />

that which underlies these is asi-turiya.<br />

D.: It is so strange!<br />

M.: Is that all? There is no limit to polemics. Listen, They say the<br />

mahavakya Tattvamasi is common; another containing five words Tat<br />

tvam asi ati nijam is the most secret one taught by Dakshinamurti in<br />

Silence; corresponding to the five words they formulate five states.<br />

Again look at Vichara Sagara; the author distinguishes adhara<br />

from adhishthana. According to him the rope is always adhara<br />

both when it looks like a snake and otherwise. The rope is<br />

adhishthana because it looks different from what it really is: that<br />

is common (samanya adhishthana). Again its appearance as the<br />

snake itself is visesha adhishthana. Then the question is raised:<br />

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