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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: The seer is only one. They do not appear <strong>with</strong>out the seer. There<br />

is no change in the seer, however much the others may change.<br />

Yogah karmasu kousalam = Skill in work is yoga,<br />

Samatvam yoga uchyate = Equanimity is yoga,<br />

Mamekam saranam vraja = Only surrender to Me,<br />

Ekamevadwiteeyam = Only one <strong>with</strong>out a second,<br />

representing Karma, Yoga, Bhakti and Jnana convey the same meaning.<br />

They are only the single Truth presented in different aspects.<br />

Mr. Ekanatha Rao: Is Grace necessary for it?<br />

M.: Yes.<br />

D.: How to gain Divine Grace?<br />

M.: By surrender.<br />

D.: Still I do not feel Grace.<br />

M.: Sincerity is wanting. Surrender should not be verbal nor conditional.<br />

Passages from St. Justinian were read out to illustrate these<br />

statements.<br />

Prayer is not verbal. It is from the heart. To merge into the Heart<br />

is prayer. That is also Grace.<br />

The Alwar says: “I was all along seeking Thee. But on realising the Self<br />

I find you are the Self. The Self is my all, and so you are my All.”<br />

D.: Impurities of limitation, ignorance and desire (anava, mayika,<br />

and kamya) place obstacles in the way of meditation. How to<br />

conquer them?<br />

M.: Not to be swayed by them.<br />

D.: Grace is necessary.<br />

M.: Yes, Grace is both the beginning and the end. Introversion is due<br />

to Grace: Perseverance is Grace; and Realisation is Grace. That<br />

is the reason for the statement: Mamekam saranam vraja (only<br />

surrender to Me). If one has entirely surrendered oneself is there<br />

any part left to ask for Grace? He is swallowed up by Grace.<br />

D.: The obstacles are powerful and obstruct meditation.<br />

M.: If a Higher Power is recognised and surrendered to, how will they<br />

obstruct you? If you say “They are powerful,” the source of their<br />

Power must be held so that they do not obstruct you.<br />

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