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D.: But I did not feel the same.
Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
M.: Surrender will make one understand the Grace.
D.: I have surrendered heart and soul. I am the best judge of my heart.
Still I do not feel the Grace.
M.: If you had surrendered the questions would not arise.
D.: I have surrendered. Still the questions arise.
M.: Grace is constant. Your judgement is the variable. Where else
should the fault lie?
D.: I must be enabled to surrender myself.
M.: Thayumanavar has said: “Glory to Thee for enabling me to discuss
so much and follow Thy words so far!”
Talk 318.
7th January, 1937
A Hindi gentleman asked how the fear of death could be got over.
M.: Find out if you were born before you think of death. Only he who
is born could die. You are as good as dead even in sleep. What fear
is there of death?
D.: How are we in sleep?
M.: Ask the question in sleep. You recall the experience of sleep only when
you are awake. You recall that state by saying “I slept happily”.
D.: What is the instrument by which we experience that state?
M.: We call it Mayakarana as opposed to the antahkarana to which
we are accustomed in our other states. The same instruments are
called differently in the different states, even as the anandatman
of sleep is termed the vijnanatman of the wakeful state.
D.: Please furnish me with an illustration for the mayakarana
experiencing the ananda.
M.: How can you say “I slept happily”? The experience is there to
prove your happiness. There cannot be the remembrance in the
wakeful state in the absence of the experience in the sleep state.
D.: Agreed. But please give me an illustration.
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