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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Take another example: A passenger in a cart has fallen asleep. The<br />

bulls move or stand still or are unyoked on the journey. He does not<br />

know these occurrences, but finds himself in a different place after<br />

he wakes up. He has been blissfully ignorant of the occurrences on<br />

the way, but his journey has been finished.<br />

Similarly <strong>with</strong> the Self of the person. He is asleep in the body. His waking<br />

state is the movement of the bulls, his samadhi is their standing still<br />

(because samadhi = jagrat sushupti) i.e., to say, he is aware of but not<br />

attached to actions. So the bulls are in harness but do not move. His<br />

sleep is the unyoking of the bulls, for there is complete suspension of<br />

activities corresponding to the release of the bulls from the yoke.<br />

Still another example: Scenes are projected on the screen in a<br />

cinema show. But the moving pictures do not affect or alter the<br />

screen. The seer pays attention to the pictures and ignores the<br />

screen. They cannot remain apart from the screen. Still its existence<br />

is ignored. So also the Self is the screen on which the pictures,<br />

namely activities, are going on. The man is aware of the latter,<br />

ignoring the former. All the same he is not apart from the Self.<br />

Whether aware or unaware the actions will continue.<br />

D.: There is an operator in the cinema.<br />

M.: The cinema show is made out of insentient materials. The screen,<br />

the pictures, lamp, etc., are insentient and require an operator, a<br />

sentient agent. In the case of the Self, it is consciousness itself and<br />

therefore self-contained. There cannot be an operator apart.<br />

D.: Protested that he did not confuse the body <strong>with</strong> the operator as<br />

the above answer would imply.<br />

M.: The functions of the body were kept in mind involving the need<br />

for the operator. Because there is the body - a jada object - an<br />

operator, a sentient agent, is necessary.<br />

Because people think that they are jivas, <strong>Sri</strong> Krishna has said that<br />

God resides in the Heart as the operator of the jivas. In fact there<br />

are no jivas and no operator. The self comprises all. It is the screen,<br />

the pictures, the seer, the actor, the operator, the light and all else.<br />

Your confounding it <strong>with</strong> the body and imagining yourself as the<br />

actor amounts to the seer being represented as an actor in a cinema<br />

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