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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
one body, seek and find another. Just see what happens even to your
gross body. Suppose you go to London. How do you do it? You take
a conveyance, go to the docks, board the steamer and reach London
in a few days. What has happened? The conveyances had moved,
but not your body. Still you say that you travelled from one part
of the globe to the other part. The movements of the conveyances
have been superimposed on your body. Similarly also with your
ego. The reincarnations are superimpositions. For example, what
happens in a dream? Do you go to the dream world or does it occur
in you? Surely the latter. Just the same with incarnations. The ego
remains changeless all along.
Again, there is no time and space in your sleep. They are concepts
which arise after the ‘I-thought’ has arisen. Before the rise of the ‘Ithought’
the concepts are absent. Therefore you are beyond time and
space. The ‘I-thought’ is only limited ‘I’. The real ‘I’ is unlimited,
universal, beyond time and space. They are absent in sleep. Just on
rising up from sleep, and before seeing the objective world, there is
a state of awareness which is your pure Self. That must be known.
D.: But I do not realise it.
M.: It is not an object to be realised. You are that. Who is there to
realise and what?
Talk 312.
Mr. V. K. Cholkar, of Poona: It is said “Know thyself” or see who
the “I” in you is. What is the way to do it? Is it by simply repeating
the mantra mechanically all along or have you to do it, remembering
every moment why you are repeating the mantra?
M.: You are always repeating the mantra automatically. If you are not
aware of the ajapa (unspoken chant) which is eternally going on,
you should take to japa. Japa is made with an effort. The effort is
meant to ward off other thoughts. Then the japa becomes mental
and internal. Finally, its ajapa and eternal nature will be realised.
For it will be found to be going on even without your effort. The
effortless state is the state of realisation.
Mr. Cholkar again requested instructions from a practical point of
view, i.e., suitable to himself.
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