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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
how can they be destroyed? They therefore rise up spontaneously in
order to be extinguished in due course, thus to strengthen the mind.
A visitor: All are said to be Brahman.
M.: Yes, they are. But so long as you think that they are apart they are
to be avoided. If on the other hand they are found to be Self there
is no need to say ‘all’. For all that exists is only Brahman. There
is nothing besides Brahman.
D.: Ribhu Gita speaks of so many objects as unreal, adding at the end
that they are all Brahman and thus real.
M.: Yes. When you see them as so many they are asat, i.e., unreal.
Whereas when you see them as Brahman they are real, deriving
their reality from their substratum, Brahman.
D.: Why then does Upadesa Sara speak of the body, etc., as jada
i.e. insentient?
M.: Inasmuch as you say that they are body, etc., apart from the Self.
But when the Self is found this body, etc., are also found to be in
it. Afterwards no one will ask the question and no one will say that
they are insentient.
D.: Viveka is said to be discrimination between the Self and the nonself.
What is the non-self?
M.: There is no non-self, in fact. The non-self also exists in the Self.
It is the Self which speaks of the non-self because it has forgotten
itself. Having lost hold of itself, it conceives something as non-self,
which is after all nothing but itself.
Then the discussion between the protagonists of various theories
became warm.
2nd January, 1937
Talk 311.
The ‘I’ which rises will also subside. That is the individual ‘I’ or the ‘I’concept.
That which does not rise will not subside. It is and will be for ever.
That is the universal ‘I’, the perfect ‘I’, or realisation of the Self.
At 5-30 p.m. the Swiss lady complains to Sri Bhagavan that she gets
a headache if meditation be prolonged for some time.
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