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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

the fear of death, of swoon, etc. will disappear, because you are able<br />

to merge into the source consciously.<br />

Why fear death? Death cannot mean non-being. Why do you love<br />

sleep, but not death? Do you not think now? Are you not existing now?<br />

Did you not exist in your sleep? Even a child says that it slept well<br />

and happily. It admits its existence in sleep, unconsciously though. So,<br />

consciousness is our true nature. We cannot remain unconscious. We<br />

however say that we were unconscious in our sleep because we refer<br />

to qualified consciousness. The world, the body, etc., are so embedded<br />

in us that this relative consciousness is taken to be the Self. Does<br />

anyone say in his sleep that he is unconscious? He says so now. This<br />

is the state of relative consciousness. Therefore he speaks of relative<br />

consciousness and not of abstract consciousness. The consciousness<br />

is beyond relative consciousness or unconsciousness.<br />

Again reverting to Tiruvachagam, <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said: All the<br />

four foremost saints have given out their experiences in the<br />

very first stanza. (1) Undifferentiated worship. (2) Never-failing<br />

remembrance. (3) Unrisen thought. (4) The ego is not, the Self is.<br />

All mean the same.<br />

D.: But this truth is not realised.<br />

M.: It will be realised in due course. Till then there is devotion (bhakti):<br />

“Even for a trice you do not leave my mind.” Does he leave you<br />

any moment? It is you who allow your mind to wander away. He<br />

remains always steady. When your mind is fixed, you say: “He does<br />

not leave my mind even for a trice”. How ridiculous!<br />

27th December, 1936<br />

Talk 307.<br />

Mr. Shamanna from Mysore asked <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan: Kindly explain<br />

Aham Sphurana (the light of ‘I-I’).<br />

M.: ‘I’ is not known in sleep. On waking ‘I’ is perceived associated<br />

<strong>with</strong> the body, the world and non-self in general. Such associated<br />

‘I’ is Aham vritti. When Aham represents the Self only it is Aham<br />

Sphurana. This is natural to the Jnani and is itself called jnana<br />

by jnanis, or bhakti by bhaktas. Though ever present, including<br />

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