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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
of operating causes. Influenced by satva the predominance of ether
(akasa) it gives rise to jnana (knowledge) whose seat is the brain.
vayu (air) gives rise to manas (mind)
tejas (light) gives rise to buddhi (intellect)
jala (water) gives rise to chitta (memory etc.)
prthvi (earth) gives rise to ahankara (ego).
They are samashti (collective) for the reason that they can operate
collectively or individually with any or all of the senses or organs. By
rajoguna they are changed to jnanendriyas in the vyashti (individual);
by tamoguna to karmendriyas in the vyashti (the individual). The
relation between the external world and the individual now becomes
easy because the tanmatras are common to them.
The tanmatras proceed from Prakriti. The statements on creation
differ considerably. There is mentioned yugapatsrshti (simultaneous
creation) and kramasrshti (gradual creation). The significance is not
emphasis on creation but on the original source.
Talk 293.
Mr. K. K. V. Iyer: There is no way found to go inward by means of
meditation.
M.: Where else are we now? Our very being is that.
D.: Being so, we are ignorant of it.
M.: Ignorant of what, and whose is the ignorance? If ignorant of the
Self, are there two selves?
D.: There are no two selves. The feeling of limitation cannot be
denied. Due to limitations....
M.: Limitation is only in the mind. Did you feel it in deep sleep?
You exist in sleep. You do not deny your existence then. The same
Self is now and here, in the wakeful state. You are now saying that
there are limitations. What has now happened is that there are these
differences between the two states. The differences are due to the
mind. There was no mind in sleep. whereas it is now active. The
Self exists in the absence of the mind also.
D.: Although it is understood, it is not realised.
M.: It will be by and by, with meditation.
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