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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: There is seer, seen and sight. They are not characteristic of jnana.<br />

M.: In sleep, in trance, in absent-mindedness, there is no differentiation.<br />

Do you call it jnana? What has happened in these states? Is that which<br />

then was, absent now? That which is exists for ever. The difference is<br />

due to the mind. The mind is sometimes present at other times absent.<br />

There is no change in the Reality. Reality is always Bliss - Ananda.<br />

D.: Bliss is the outcome of practice. What is that practice?<br />

M.: Sadhana is the enquiry to find out to whom all these doubts<br />

arise.<br />

D.: It is for the ego (ahamkara).<br />

M.: Wherefrom does ahamkara arise?<br />

D.: Guidance is necessary to show me the way.<br />

M.: Go <strong>with</strong>in and find the route. You cannot find it from <strong>with</strong>out;<br />

nor should you seek it externally.<br />

D.: I am unable to find the ego by search. I stop there.<br />

M.: How can you get it? It is not apart from you. Leave alone not<br />

finding it. Where are you now? Do you mean to say “I am not”?<br />

D.: What or how am I?<br />

M.: Do not trouble yourself about it. Let it be as it is. Why do you<br />

care? Did you care for the whole or part (samashti, vyashti) in your<br />

sleep? The same person is present now too. You are the same in<br />

sleep and in waking.<br />

D.: Sleep and waking are different states having different effects ....<br />

M.: How does it matter to you? The Self is the same, all through.<br />

D.: The mind is not steady in meditation.<br />

M.: Whenever it wanders, turn it inward again and again.<br />

D.: When duhka (misery) overpowers me, enquiry is impossible.<br />

M.: Because the mind is too weak. Make it strong.<br />

D.: By what means?<br />

M.: Sat-sanga, Isvara Aradhana, Pranayama - (association <strong>with</strong> the<br />

wise, worship of God, breath control).<br />

D.: What happens?<br />

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