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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

under the control of a stronger one, the weak mind of a man comes<br />

under control easily in the presence of the strong-minded sadhus.<br />

That which is - is only Grace; there is nothing else.<br />

The questioner said, “I request your blessings for the good of<br />

myself”.<br />

Bhagavan said: “Yes - yes.”<br />

He left <strong>with</strong> his wife.<br />

29th November, 1936<br />

Talk 288.<br />

Explaining Maya of Vedanta and swatantra of Pratyabhijna<br />

(independence of recognition), <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said:<br />

The Vedantins say that Maya is the sakti of illusion premised in Siva.<br />

Maya has no independent existence. Having brought out the illusion<br />

of the world as real, she continues to play upon the ignorance of the<br />

victims. When the reality of her not being is found, she disappears.<br />

‘Recognition’ says that Sakti (power) is coeval <strong>with</strong> Siva. The one does<br />

not exist <strong>with</strong>out the other. Siva is unmanifest, whereas Sakti is manifest<br />

on account of Her independent will swatantra. Her manifestation is the<br />

display of the cosmos on pure consciousness, like images in a mirror.<br />

The images cannot remain in the absence of a mirror.<br />

So also the world cannot have an independent existence. Swatantra<br />

becomes eventually an attribute of the Supreme. <strong>Sri</strong> Sankara says that<br />

the Absolute is <strong>with</strong>out attributes and that Maya is not and has no<br />

real being. What is the difference between the two? Both agree that<br />

the display is not real. The images of the mirror cannot in any way<br />

be real. The world does not exist in reality (vastutah).<br />

Both schools mean the same thing. Their ultimate aim is to realise<br />

the Absolute Consciousness. The unreality of the cosmos is implied<br />

in Recognition (Pratyabhijna), whereas it is explicit in Vedanta. If the<br />

world be taken as chit (consciousness), it is always real. Vedanta says that<br />

there is no nana (diversity), meaning that it is all the same Reality.<br />

There is agreement on all points except in words and the method of<br />

expression.<br />

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