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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: Does not bhakti imply duality?<br />

M.: Swa swarupanusandhanam bhaktirityabhidheeyate (Reflection on<br />

one’s own Self is called bhakti). Bhakti and Self-Enquiry are one and<br />

the same. The Self of the Advaitins is the God of the bhaktas.<br />

D.: Is there a spiritual hierarchy of all the original propounders of<br />

religions watching the spiritual welfare of the humans?<br />

M.: Let them be or let them not be. It is only a surmise at the best. Atma<br />

is pratyaksha (self-evident). Know it and be done <strong>with</strong> speculation.<br />

One may admit such a hierarchy; another may not. But no one can<br />

gainsay the Atma.<br />

D.: What does <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan think of Pravritti and nivritti margas?<br />

M.: Yes. Both are mentioned. What of that?<br />

D.: Which is the better of the two?<br />

M.: If you see the Self - pure and simple - it is nivritti; if you see<br />

the Self <strong>with</strong> the world, it is pravritti. In other words, inwardturned<br />

mind (antarmukhi manas) is nivritti; outward-going mind<br />

(bahirmukhi manas) is pravritti. Anyway, there is nothing apart<br />

from the Self. Both are the same.<br />

Similarly also, <strong>with</strong> the spiritual hierarchy; they cannot exist apart<br />

from the Self. They are only in the Self and remain as the Self.<br />

Realisation of the Self is the one Goal of all.<br />

5th November, 1936<br />

Talk 275.<br />

In the course of conversation, someone referred to the fact that when Mr.<br />

Brunton and a lady were walking home in the night, they saw a bright<br />

glow on half the hill moving slowly and gently from North to South.<br />

<strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan said: This hill is said to be wisdom in visible shape.<br />

D.: How is it visible to the physical eye?<br />

M.: Sambandar had sung “The One who fascinated my heart or the<br />

captivator of my heart, I sing of Him in my mind”. The Heart<br />

is captivated: consequently the mind must have sunk into the<br />

Heart; and yet there is the remembrance which enables the saint<br />

to sing of God later.<br />

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