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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Talk 270.<br />

Mr. G. V. Subbaramiah, a lecturer in English in Nellore, asked:<br />

Brahman is the one by whom all this is pervaded (yena sarvamidam<br />

thatham). But then how does <strong>Sri</strong> Krishna specify the vibhutis in<br />

Chapter X of Bhagavad Gita?<br />

M.: The specifications are in reply to a definite question by Arjuna who<br />

required to know the Lord’s vibhutis for convenience of worship<br />

(upasana soukaryam). The fact is that God is all. There is nothing<br />

apart from Him.<br />

D.: The individual is said to give up decayed bodies (jirnani sarirani)<br />

and to take up new ones (navani). Would the statement apply to<br />

infant deaths also?<br />

M.: You do not know, in the first place, what is jirnani and what is<br />

navani. Secondly, jirna and nava are relative terms. What is old to<br />

a king may be new to a beggar. The truth is that the individuality<br />

signifies the state of embodiment till the time of liberation!<br />

Talk 271.<br />

Dr. Syed: How is Grace to be obtained?<br />

M.: Similar to obtaining the Self.<br />

D.: Practically, how is it to be for us?<br />

M.: By self-surrender.<br />

D.: Grace was said to be the Self. Should I then surrender to my own<br />

Self?<br />

M.: Yes. To the one from whom Grace is sought. God, Guru and Self<br />

are only different forms of the same.<br />

D.: Please explain, so that I may understand.<br />

M.: So long as you think you are the individual you believe in God.<br />

On worshipping God, God appears to you as Guru. On serving<br />

Guru He manifests as the Self. This is the rationale.<br />

Talk 272.<br />

D.: There are widespread disasters spreading havoc in the world e.g.,<br />

famine and pestilence. What is the cause of this state of affairs?<br />

M.: To whom does all this appear?<br />

D.: That won’t do. I see misery around.<br />

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