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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
D.: The booklet Who am I? speaks of swarupa drishti (seeing the
essence). Then there must be a seer and the seen. How can this be
reconciled with the Ultimate Unity?
M.: Why do you ask for salvation, release from sorrow, etc.? He who
asks for them sees them also.
The fact is this. Drishti (sight) is consciousness. It forms the subject
and object. Can there be drishti apart from the Self? The Self is
all - drishti, etc.
D.: How to discern the ego from the Perfect ‘I-I’?
M.: That which rises and falls is the transient ‘I’. That which has
neither origin nor end is the permanent ‘I-I’ consciousness.
D.: Will continuous thought on the Self make the mind more and more
refined so that it will not think of anything but the highest?
M.: There is the peaceful mind which is the supreme. When the
same becomes restless, it is afflicted by thoughts. Mind is only
the dynamic power (sakti) of the Self.
D.: Are the sheaths material and different from the Self?
M.: There is no difference between matter and spirit. Modern science
admits that all matter is energy. Energy is power or force (sakti).
Therefore all are resolved in Siva and Sakti i.e., the Self and the
Mind.
The kosas are mere appearances. There is no reality in them as such.
D.: How many hours a day should one devote to meditation?
M.: Your very nature is meditation.
D.: It will be so when ripe, but not now.
M.: You become conscious of it later. That does not mean that your
nature is now different from meditation.
D.: What about practice?
M.: Meditation must always be practised.
D.: A Persian mystic says: “There is nothing but God.” The Quran
says: “God is immanent in all.”
M.: There is no ‘all’, apart from God, for Him to pervade. He alone is.
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