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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

a shoot of that Dakshinamurti. The question does not arise when<br />

the Self is realised.<br />

D.: Does <strong>Maharshi</strong> enter the nirvikalpa samadhi?<br />

M.: If the eyes are closed, it is nirvikalpa; if open, it is (though<br />

differentiated, still in absolute repose) savikalpa. The ever-present<br />

state is the natural state sahaja.<br />

26th January, 1935<br />

Talk 18.<br />

Mr. Evans-Wentz asked: There are yogis <strong>with</strong> occult powers. What<br />

does <strong>Maharshi</strong> think of them?<br />

M.: The powers are known by hearsay or by exhibition. Thus they<br />

are in the realm of the mind only.<br />

D.: Mr. Brunton mentions a yogi in Madras who is said to hold<br />

communion <strong>with</strong> his master in the Himalayas.<br />

M.: It is not more marvellous than telepathy - so commonly known.<br />

Telepathy cannot exist <strong>with</strong>out the hearer and television <strong>with</strong>out<br />

the seer. What is the difference between hearing from far and from<br />

near? It is only the hearer who matters. Without the hearer there<br />

cannot be hearing; <strong>with</strong>out the seer there cannot be vision.<br />

D.: So you want me to consider the subject and not the object.<br />

M.: The subject and object appear only after the mind has arisen. The<br />

mind comprises them and also the occult powers.<br />

D.: Can the manifestations of light (jothis) be seen on Arunachala Hill?<br />

M.: Yes.<br />

D.: Is there any psychic effect in visiting sacred places like Mt.<br />

Kailas, Benares, etc.?<br />

M.: Yes.<br />

D.: Is there any benefit accruing by dying in Benares?<br />

M.: Yes, the meaning will be clear if the real Benares and real dying<br />

be understood.<br />

D.: You mean that they are in the Self?<br />

M.: Yes.<br />

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