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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
But the association of ideas is responsible for foisting this bliss on
to other things or happenings. In fact, it is within you. On these
occasions you are plunging into the Self, though unconsciously.
If you do so consciously you call it Realisation. I want you to dive
consciously into the Self, i.e., into the Heart.
Talk 255.
D.: If the Self be always realised we should only keep still. Is that so?
M.: If you can keep still without engaging in any other pursuits, it is
very good. If that cannot be done, where is the use of being quiet
so far as realisation is concerned? So long as one is obliged to be
active, let him not give up the attempt to realise the Self.
Talk 256.
A question was asked regarding the position of one whose jnana is
weak in the scheme of things. The doubt was if that manda Jnani had
stopped short of kevala nirvikalpa.
M.: Kevala nirvikalpa happens even in the tanumanasi stage (of
attenuated mind).
D.: The middling and superior jnanis are said to be jivanmuktas.
Kevala nirvikalpa is in tanumanasa. Where does one whose jnana
is weak fit in?
M.: He comes in sattvapatti (realisation) - whereas the middling
and the superior ones come in asamsakti and padarthabhavini
respectively. This division as dull, middling, and superior is
according to the momentum of prarabdha. If it is strong he is
weak; if it is middling he is middling too; if prarabdha is weak he
is superior; if it is very weak he is in turyaga.
There is no difference in the samadhi state or the jnana of the jnanis.
The classification is only from the standpoint of the observer.
D.: Is tanumanasi the same as mumukshutva?
M.: No. The six qualities, discrimination, dispassion and mumukshutva,
etc., precede subhechcha. The first stage follows mumukshutva,
then comes vicharana (search), then the tenuous mind. Direct
perception is in sattvapatti (realisation).
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