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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: What is it that prompted the murderer to commit the crime? The<br />

same power awards him the punishment. Society or the State is<br />

only a tool in the hands of the power. You speak of one life taken<br />

away; But what about innumerable lives lost in wars?<br />

D.: Quite so. Loss of lives is wrong anyway. Are wars justified?<br />

M.: For a realised man, the one who remains ever in the Self, the loss<br />

of one or several or all lives either in this world or in all the three<br />

worlds makes no difference. Even if he happens to destroy them<br />

all, no sin can touch such a pure soul. <strong>Maharshi</strong> quoted the Gita,<br />

Chapter 18, Verse 17 - “He who is free from the notion of ego,<br />

whose intellect is unattached, though he annihilates all the worlds,<br />

he slayeth not, nor is he bound by the results of his actions.”<br />

D.: Do not one’s actions affect the person in after-births?<br />

M.: Are you born now? Why do you think of other births? The fact<br />

is that there is neither birth nor death. Let him who is born think<br />

of death and palliatives therefore.<br />

D.: How long did it take <strong>Maharshi</strong> to realise the Self?<br />

M.: This question is asked because the name and form are perceived.<br />

These are the perceptions consequent on the identification of the<br />

ego <strong>with</strong> the gross body.<br />

If the ego identifies itself <strong>with</strong> the subtle mind, as in dream, the<br />

perceptions are subtle also. But in sleep there are no perceptions.<br />

Was there not the ego still? Unless it was, there cannot be the<br />

memory of having slept. Who was it that slept? You did not say in<br />

your sleep that you slept. You say it now in your wakeful state. The<br />

ego therefore is the same in wakefulness, dream and sleep. Find<br />

out the underlying Reality behind these states. That is the Reality<br />

underlying these. In that state there is Being alone. There is no you,<br />

nor I, nor he; no present, nor past, nor future. It is beyond time and<br />

space, beyond expression.<br />

It is ever there.<br />

Just as a plantain tree produces shoots at its roots, before yielding<br />

fruits and perishing, and these shoots, being transplanted, do the<br />

same again, so also the original primeval Master of antiquity<br />

(Dakshinamurti), who cleared the doubts of his rishi disciples in<br />

silence, has left shoots which are ever multiplying. The Guru is<br />

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