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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

very doubt, “Can I realise?” or the feeling, “I have not realised”<br />

are the obstacles. Be free from these also.<br />

D.: But there should be the experience. Unless I have the experience<br />

how can I be free from these afflicting thoughts?<br />

M.: These are also in the mind. They are there because you have<br />

identified yourself <strong>with</strong> the body. If this false identity drops away,<br />

ignorance vanishes and Truth is revealed.<br />

D.: Yes, I feel it difficult. There are disciples of Bhagavan who have<br />

had His Grace and realised <strong>with</strong>out any considerable difficulty. I<br />

too wish to have that Grace. Being a woman and living at a long<br />

distance I cannot avail myself of <strong>Maharshi</strong>’s holy company as much<br />

as I would wish and as often as I would. Possibly I may not be<br />

able to return. I request Bhagavan’s Grace. When I am back in my<br />

place, I want to remember Bhagavan. May Bhagavan be pleased<br />

to grant my prayer!<br />

M.: Where are you going? You are not going anywhere. Even<br />

supposing you are the body, has your body come from Lucknow to<br />

Tiruvannamalai? You had simply sat in the car and one conveyance<br />

or another had moved; and finally you say that you have come here.<br />

The fact is that you are not the body. The Self does not move. The<br />

world moves in it. You are only what you are. There is no change<br />

in you. So then even after what looks like departure from here, you<br />

are here and there and everywhere. These scenes shift.<br />

As for Grace - Grace is <strong>with</strong>in you. If it is external it is useless. Grace<br />

is the Self. You are never out of its operation. Grace is always there.<br />

D.: I mean that when I remember your form, my mind should be<br />

strengthened and that response should come from your side too. I should<br />

not be left to my individual efforts which are after all only weak.<br />

M.: Grace is the Self. I have already said, “If you remember Bhagavan,<br />

you are prompted to do so by the Self.” Is not Grace already there?<br />

Is there a moment when Grace is not operating in you? Your<br />

remembrance is the forerunner of Grace. That is the response,<br />

that is the stimulus, that is the Self and that is Grace.<br />

There is no cause for anxiety.<br />

D.: Can I engage in spiritual practice, even remaining in samsara?<br />

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