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D.: I mean meditation, etc.
Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
M.: Yes. Meditation is on a form. That will drive away other thoughts.
The one thought of God will dominate others. That is concentration.
The object of meditation is thus the same as that of vichara.
D.: Do we not see God in concrete form?
M.: Yes. God is seen in the mind. The concrete form may be seen.
Still it is only in the devotee’s mind. The form and appearance of
God-manifestation are determined by the mind of the devotee. But
it is not the finality. There is the sense of duality.
It is like a dream-vision. After God is perceived, vichara commences.
That ends in Realisation of the Self. Vichara is the ultimate route.
Of course, a few find vichara practicable. Others find bhakti easier.
D.: Did not Mr. Brunton find you in London? Was it only a dream?
M.: Yes. He had the vision. He saw me in his mind.
D.: Did he not see this concrete form?
M.: Yes, still in his mind.
D.: How shall I reach the Self?
M.: There is no reaching the Self. If the Self were to be reached, it
would mean that the Self is not now and here, but that it should
be got anew. What is got afresh, will also be lost. So it will be
impermanent. What is not permanent is not worth striving for. So I
say, the Self is not reached. You are the Self. You are already That.
The fact is that you are ignorant of your blissful state. Ignorance
supervenes and draws a veil over the pure Bliss. Attempts are
directed only to remove this ignorance. This ignorance consists
in wrong knowledge. The wrong knowledge consists in the false
identification of the Self with the body, the mind, etc. This false
identity must go and there remains the Self.
D.: How is that to happen?
M.: By enquiry into the Self.
D.: It is difficult. Can I realise the Self, Maharaj? Kindly tell me. It
looks so difficult.
M.: You are already the Self. Therefore realisation is common to
everyone. Realisation knows no difference in the aspirants. This
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