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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: What is the difference between fainting and sleep?<br />

M.: Sleep is sudden and overpowers the person forcibly. A faint is<br />

slower and there is a tingle of resistance kept up. Realisation is<br />

possible in a faint and impossible in sleep.<br />

D.: What is the state just before death?<br />

M.: When a person gasps for breath it indicates that the person is<br />

unconscious of this body; another body has been held and the<br />

person swings to and fro. While gasping there is a more violent gasp<br />

at intervals and that indicates the oscillation between the two bodies<br />

due to the present attachment not having been completely snapped.<br />

I noticed it in the case of my mother and of Palaniswami.<br />

D.: Does the new body involved in that state represent the next reincarnation<br />

of the person?<br />

M.: Yes. While gasping the person is in something like a dream, not<br />

aware of the present environment.<br />

(It must be remembered that <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan had been <strong>with</strong> His<br />

mother from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. until she passed away. He was all<br />

along holding her head <strong>with</strong> one hand, the other hand placed on<br />

her bosom. What does it signify? He Himself said later that there<br />

was a struggle between Himself and His mother until her spirit<br />

reached the Heart.<br />

Evidently the soul passes through a series of subtle experiences,<br />

and <strong>Sri</strong> Bhagavan’s touch generates a current which turns the<br />

soul back from its wandering into the Heart.<br />

The samskaras, however, persist and a struggle is kept up between<br />

the spiritual force set up by His touch and the innate samskaras,<br />

until the latter are entirely destroyed and the soul is led into the<br />

Heart to rest in eternal Peace, which is the same as Liberation.<br />

Its entry into the Heart is signified by a peculiar sensation<br />

perceptible to the Mahatma - similar to the tinkling of a bell.<br />

When <strong>Maharshi</strong> attended on Palaniswami on his death-bed, He<br />

took away His hand after the above signal. But Palaniswami’s eyes<br />

opened immediately, signifying that the spirit had escaped through<br />

them, thereby indicating a higher rebirth, but not Liberation.<br />

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