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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

exists now. What is it that has happened now so that this difference<br />

is experienced? There was no ‘I-thought’ in your sleep, whereas it is<br />

present now. The true ‘I’ is not apparent and the false ‘I’ is parading<br />

itself. This false ‘I’ is the obstacle to your right knowledge. Find<br />

out wherefrom this false ‘I’ arises. Then it will disappear. You will<br />

be only what you are - i.e., absolute Being.<br />

D.: How to do it? I have not succeeded so far.<br />

M.: Search for the source of the ‘I-thought’. That is all that one has to<br />

do. The universe exists on account of the ‘I-thought’. If that ends<br />

there is an end of misery also. The false ‘I’ will end only when its<br />

source is sought.<br />

Dr. Lohara asked for the meaning of one stanza in “Upadesa Sara”.<br />

M.: The one then in sleep is also now awake. There was happiness<br />

in sleep; but misery in wakefulness. There was no ‘I’- thought in<br />

sleep; but it is now, while awake. The state of happiness and of no<br />

‘I-thought’ in sleep is <strong>with</strong>out effort. The aim should be to bring<br />

about that state even now. That requires effort.<br />

Sleep<br />

Effortless<br />

Happiness<br />

No ‘I-thought’<br />

Wakefulness<br />

No happiness<br />

‘I-thought’<br />

192<br />

Bring about sleep even in<br />

the waking state and that is<br />

realisation. Effort is directed<br />

to extinguishing the ‘I-thought’<br />

and not for ushering the true<br />

‘I’. For the latter is eternal and<br />

requires no effort on your part.<br />

Talk 223.<br />

Dr. Lohara: Why does the mind not sink into the Heart even while<br />

meditating?<br />

M.: A floating body does not readily sink unless some means are adopted<br />

for making it do so. Breath-control makes the mind quiescent. The<br />

mind must be alert and meditation pursued unremittingly even when<br />

it is at peace. Then it sinks into the heart. Or the floating body might<br />

be loaded <strong>with</strong> weights and made to sink. So also association <strong>with</strong><br />

the wise will make the mind sink into the Heart.

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