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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Thus - you see - Devotion is nothing more than knowing oneself. The<br />

school of Qualified Monism also admits it. Still, adhering to their<br />

traditional doctrine, they persist in affirming that the individuals are<br />

part of the Supreme - his limbs as it were. Their traditional doctrine<br />

says also that the individual soul should be made pure and then<br />

surrendered to the Supreme; then the ego is lost and one goes to the<br />

regions of Vishnu after one’s death; then finally there is the enjoyment<br />

of the Supreme (or the Infinite)!<br />

To say that one is apart from the Primal Source is itself a pretension;<br />

to add that one divested of the ego becomes pure and yet retains<br />

individuality only to enjoy or serve the Supreme, is a deceitful<br />

stratagem. What duplicity is this - first to appropriate what is really<br />

His, and then pretend to experience or serve Him! Is not all this<br />

already known to Him?<br />

19th June, 1936<br />

Talk 209.<br />

Mr. B. C. Das, the Physics Lecturer, asked about free-will and destiny.<br />

M.: Whose will is it? ‘It is mine’, you may say. You are beyond will<br />

and fate. Abide as that and you transcend them both. That is the<br />

meaning of conquering destiny by will. Fate can be conquered.<br />

Fate is the result of past actions. By association <strong>with</strong> the wise the<br />

bad tendencies are conquered. One’s experiences are then viewed<br />

to their proper perspective.<br />

I exist now. I am the enjoyer. I enjoy fruits of action. I was in the<br />

past and shall be in the future. Who is this ‘I’? Finding this ‘I’ to<br />

be pure Consciousness beyond action and enjoyment, freedom and<br />

happiness are gained. There is then no effort, for the Self is perfect<br />

and there remains nothing more to gain.<br />

So long as there is individuality, one is the enjoyer and doer. But if<br />

it is lost, the divine Will prevails and guides the course of events.<br />

The individual is perceptible to others who cannot perceive divine<br />

force. Restrictions and discipline are for other individuals and not<br />

for the liberated.<br />

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