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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Nevertheless you cannot be so because of your physical outlook.<br />

Even men who ought to know better and who have known the teaching<br />

about liberation after death etc., glorify liberation along <strong>with</strong> the body<br />

and call it some mysterious power of keeping the body eternally alive!<br />

There will be no pain if the physical outlook is given up and if the<br />

person exists as the Self. Mourning is not the index of true love. It<br />

betrays love of the object, of its shape only. That is not love. True love<br />

is shown by the certainty that the object of love is in the Self and that<br />

it can never become non-existent. (<strong>Maharshi</strong> cited the story of Ahalya<br />

and Indra from Yoga Vasishta in this connection.)<br />

Still it is true, pain on such occasions can only be assuaged by<br />

association <strong>with</strong> the wise.<br />

18th June, 1936<br />

Talk 204.<br />

<strong>Maharshi</strong> on Self-Illumination: The ‘I’ concept is the ego. I-illumination<br />

is the Realisation of the Real Self. It is ever shining forth as ‘I-I’ in<br />

the intellectual sheath. It is pure Knowledge; relative knowledge is<br />

only a concept. The bliss of the blissful sheath is also but a concept.<br />

Unless there is the experience, however subtle it is, one cannot say<br />

“I slept happily”. From his intellect he speaks of his blissful sheath.<br />

The bliss of sleep is but a concept to the person, the same as intellect.<br />

However, the concept of experience is exceedingly subtle in sleep.<br />

Experience is not possible <strong>with</strong>out simultaneous knowledge of it<br />

(i.e. relative knowledge).<br />

The inherent nature of the Self is Bliss. Some kind of knowledge has<br />

to be admitted, even in the realisation of Supreme Bliss. It may be<br />

said to be subtler than the subtlest.<br />

The word vijnana (clear knowledge) is used both to denote the<br />

Realisation of the Self and knowing the objects. The Self is wisdom.<br />

It functions in two ways. When associated <strong>with</strong> the ego the knowledge<br />

is objective (vijnana). When divested of the ego and the Universal Self<br />

is realised, it is also called vijnana. The word raises a mental concept.<br />

Therefore we say that the Self-Realised Sage knows by his mind, but<br />

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