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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

The Self is that to which we surrender our ego and let the Supreme<br />

Power, i.e., the Self, do what it pleases. The ego is already the Self’s.<br />

We have no rights over the ego, even as it is. However, supposing<br />

we had, we must surrender them.<br />

D.: What about bringing down divine consciousness from above?<br />

M.: As if the same is not already in the Heart? “O Arjuna, I am in the<br />

expanse of the Heart,” says <strong>Sri</strong> Krishna “He who is in the sun, is<br />

also in this man”, says a mantra in the Upanishads. “The Kingdom<br />

of God is <strong>with</strong>in”, says the Bible. All are thus agreed that God is<br />

<strong>with</strong>in. What is to be brought down? From where? Who is to bring<br />

what, and why?<br />

Realisation is only the removal of obstacles to the recognition of<br />

the eternal, immanent Reality. Reality is. It need not be taken from<br />

place to place.<br />

D.: What about Aurobindo’s claim to start from Self-Realisation and<br />

develop further?<br />

M.: Let us first realise and then see.<br />

Then <strong>Maharshi</strong> began to speak of similar theories: The<br />

Visishtadvaitins say that the Self is first realised and the realised<br />

individual soul is surrendered to the universal soul. Only then is it<br />

complete. The part is given up to the whole. That is liberation and<br />

sayujya union. Simple Self-Realisation stops at isolating the pure<br />

Self, says Visishtadvaita.<br />

The siddhas say that the one who leaves his body behind as a corpse<br />

cannot attain mukti. They are reborn. Only those whose bodies<br />

dissolve in space, in light or away from sight, attain liberation.<br />

The Advaitins of Sankara’s school stop short at Self-Realisation<br />

and this is not the end, the siddhas say.<br />

There are also others who extol their own pet theories as the best,<br />

e.g., late Venkaswami Rao of Kumbakonam, Brahmananda Yogi<br />

of Cuddappah, etc.<br />

The fact is: There is Reality. It is not affected by any discussions.<br />

Let us abide as Reality and not engage in futile discussions as to<br />

its nature, etc.<br />

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