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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: From where did ignorance come?<br />

M.: There is no such thing as ignorance. It never arises. Everyone<br />

is Knowledge itself. Only Knowledge does not shine easily. The<br />

dispelling of ignorance is Wisdom which always exists - e.g., the<br />

necklace remaining round the neck though supposed to have been<br />

lost; or each of the ten fools failing to count himself and counting<br />

only the others. To whom is knowledge or ignorance?<br />

D.: Can we not proceed from external to internal?<br />

M.: Is there any difference like that? Do you feel the difference -<br />

external and internal - in your sleep? This difference is only <strong>with</strong><br />

reference to the body and arises <strong>with</strong> body-consciousness (‘Ithought’).<br />

The so-called waking state is itself an illusion.<br />

Turn your vision inward and then the whole world will be full of<br />

Supreme Spirit. The world is said to be illusion. Illusion is really<br />

Truth. Even the material sciences trace the origin of the universe<br />

to some one primordial matter - subtle, exceedingly subtle.<br />

God is the same both to those who say the world is real and to their<br />

opponents. Their outlook is different. You need not entangle yourself<br />

in such disputations. The goal is one and the same for all. Look to it.<br />

14th June, 1936<br />

Talk 200.<br />

Mr. Cohen desired an explanation of the term “blazing light” used by<br />

Paul Brunton in the last chapter of A Search in Secret India.<br />

<strong>Maharshi</strong>: Since the experience is through the mind only it appears first as<br />

a blaze of light. The mental predispositions are not yet destroyed. The<br />

mind is however functioning in its infinite capacity in this experience.<br />

As for nirvikalpa samadhi i.e., samadhi, of non-differentiation<br />

(undifferentiated, supreme, beatific repose), it consists of pure<br />

consciousness, which is capable of illumining knowledge or<br />

ignorance; it is also beyond light or darkness. That it is not darkness<br />

is certain; can it be however said to be not light? At present objects<br />

are perceived only in light. Is it wrong to say that realisation of one’s<br />

Self requires a light? Here light would mean the consciousness<br />

which reveals as the Self only.<br />

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