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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

That which is does not even say ‘I am’. For, does any doubt rise that<br />

‘I am not’? Only in such a case should one be reminding oneself<br />

‘I am a man’. One does not. On the other hand, if a doubt arises<br />

whether he is a cow or a buffalo he has to remind himself that<br />

he is not a cow, etc., but ‘I am a man.’ This would never happen.<br />

Similarly <strong>with</strong> one’s own existence and realisation.<br />

10th June, 1936<br />

Talk 198.<br />

Some ladies asked if there is rebirth of man as a lower animal.<br />

M.: Yes. It is possible, as illustrated by Jada Bharata - the scriptural<br />

anecdote of a royal sage, having been reborn as a deer.<br />

D.: Is the individual capable of spiritual progress in the animal body?<br />

M.: Not unlikely, though it is exceedingly rare<br />

D.: What is Guru’s Grace? How does it work?<br />

M.: Guru is the Self.<br />

D.: How does it lead to realisation?<br />

M.: Isvaro gururatmeti ... (God is the same as Guru and Self ...). A<br />

person begins <strong>with</strong> dissatisfaction. Not content <strong>with</strong> the world he<br />

seeks satisfaction of desires by prayers to God; his mind is purified;<br />

he longs to know God more than to satisfy his carnal desires. Then<br />

God’s Grace begins to manifest. God takes the form of a Guru and<br />

appears to the devotee; teaches him the Truth; purifies the mind by his<br />

teachings and contact; the mind gains strength, is able to turn inward;<br />

<strong>with</strong> meditation it is purified yet further, and eventually remains still<br />

<strong>with</strong>out the least ripple. That stillness is the Self. The Guru is both<br />

exterior and interior. From the exterior he gives a push to the mind<br />

to turn inward; from the interior he pulls the mind towards the Self<br />

and helps the mind to achieve quietness. That is Grace.<br />

Hence there is no difference between God, Guru and Self.<br />

Talk 199.<br />

The ladies later asked several questions relating to their present<br />

inability to realise the already realised, eternal Self. The sign of<br />

Realisation would be Bliss, which was absent.<br />

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