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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

Free-will and Destiny last as long as the body lasts. But wisdom (jnana)<br />

transcends both. The Self is beyond knowledge and ignorance. Should<br />

anything happen, it happens as the result of one’s past actions, of divine<br />

will and of other factors.<br />

Talk 194.<br />

Mr. Subba Rao, a visitor from Amalapuram, asked: How to control<br />

the mind?<br />

M.: Get hold of the mind.<br />

D.: How?<br />

M.: Mind is intangible. In fact, it does not exist. The surest way of<br />

control is to seek it. Then its activities cease.<br />

6th June, 1936<br />

Talk 195.<br />

Mr. Jharka, a gentleman from the University of Benares, holding the<br />

M.A. and the M.Sc. degrees, said that he was stricken <strong>with</strong> grief due<br />

to bereavement of wife and children. He sought peace of mind and<br />

asked how to get it.<br />

M.: It is in the mind that birth and death, pleasure and pain, in short the<br />

world and ego exist. If the mind is destroyed all these are destroyed<br />

too. Note that it should be annihilated, not just made latent. For<br />

the mind is dormant in sleep. It does not know anything. Still, on<br />

waking up, you are as you were before. There is no end of grief.<br />

But if the mind be destroyed the grief will have no background<br />

and will disappear along <strong>with</strong> the mind.<br />

D.: How to destroy the mind?<br />

M.: Seek the mind. On being sought, it will disappear.<br />

D.: I do not understand.<br />

M.: The mind is only a bundle of thoughts. The thoughts arise because<br />

there is the thinker. The thinker is the ego. The ego, if sought, will<br />

vanish automatically. The ego and the mind are the same. The ego<br />

is the root-thought from which all other thoughts arise.<br />

D.: How to seek the mind?<br />

165

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