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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

24th February, 1936<br />

Talk 163.<br />

Dr. Henry Hand, an American of about seventy, asked “What is ego?”<br />

M.: Ego being internal and not external to you it must be clear to yourself.<br />

D.: What is its definition?<br />

M.: The definition also must proceed from the ego. The ego must<br />

define itself.<br />

D.: What is soul?<br />

M.: Find the ego, the soul is found.<br />

D.: Are they then the same?<br />

M.: Soul can be <strong>with</strong>out the ego; but the ego cannot be <strong>with</strong>out the<br />

soul. They are like bubble and the ocean.<br />

D.: That clarifies the matter. What is Atman?<br />

M.: Atman and soul are the same.<br />

Talk 164.<br />

Another American asked about thought-forms.<br />

M.: Trace the source of thoughts, they will disappear.<br />

D.: Thoughts materialise.<br />

M.: If there be thoughts they will materialise. If they disappear there<br />

is nothing to materialise. Moreover if you are physical the world<br />

is physical and so on. Find out if you are physical.<br />

D.: How shall I be useful to God’s world?<br />

M.: Find out if ‘I’ is different from the divine part of the world. Not being<br />

able to help yourself yet you are seeking the divine part of it to help<br />

you to help the world. The divinity is directing and controlling you.<br />

Where do you go in deep sleep? Wherefrom do you come out?<br />

D.: I have been influenced by deeds and thoughts.<br />

M.: Thoughts and deeds are the same.<br />

D.: Is there any way of sensing super-physical phenomena, e.g.,<br />

guardian angels?<br />

M.: The state of the object is according to the state of the seer.<br />

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