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D.: Are there caves inside?
Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
M.: In visions I have seen caves, cities with streets, etc., and a whole
world in it.
D.: Are there Siddhas too in it?
M.: All the Siddhas are reputed to be there.
D.: Are there only Siddhas or others also?
M.: Just like this world.
D.: Siddhas are said to be in the Himalayas.
M.: Kailas is on the Himalayas: it is the abode of Siva. Whereas this
Hill is Siva Himself. All the paraphernalia of His abode must also
be where He Himself is.
D.: Does Bhagavan believe that the Hill is hollow, etc.?
M.: Everything depends on the viewpoint of the individual. You
yourself have seen hermitages, etc., on this Hill in a vision. You
have described such in your book.
D.: Yes. It was on the surface of the Hill. The vision was within me.
M.: That is exactly so. Everything is within one’s Self. To see the
world, there must be a spectator. There could be no world without
the Self. The Self is all-comprising. In fact Self is all. There is
nothing besides the Self.
D.: What is the mystery of this Hill?
M.: Just as you have said in Secret Egypt, “The mystery of the pyramid
is the mystery of the Self,” so also the mystery of this Hill is the
mystery of the Self.
Maj. Chadwick: I do not know if the Self is different from the ego.
M.: How were you in your deep sleep?
D.: I do not know.
M.: Who does not know? Is it not the waking Self? Do you deny your
existence in your deep sleep?
D.: I was and I am; but I do not know who was in deep sleep.
M.: Exactly. The man awake says that he did not know anything in
the state of sleep. Now he sees the objects and knows that he is
there; whereas in deep sleep there were no objects, no spectator, etc.
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