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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

D.: “There is a blankness intervening,” it is said in the book.<br />

M.: Yes. Do not stop there. See for whom the blankness appears.<br />

D.: For devotees there is no blankness, it is said.<br />

M.: Even there, there is the latent state, laya; the mind wakes up after<br />

some time.<br />

D.: What is the experience of samadhi?<br />

M.: It is as it is. For onlookers it may seem to be a swoon. Even to<br />

the practiser it may appear so in the early experiences. After a few<br />

repeated experiences it will be all right.<br />

D.: Do they soothe nadis or do they excite them by such experiences?<br />

M.: They are excited at first. By continued experience it becomes<br />

common and the man is no longer excited.<br />

D.: Proceeding on safe lines there should be no unpleasantness.<br />

Excitement is uncongenial to smooth being and working.<br />

M.: A wandering mind is on the wrong way; only a devotional mind<br />

is on the right way.<br />

Talk 139.<br />

19th January, 1936<br />

Mr. Ellappa Chettiar, a Member of the Legislative Council, from<br />

Salem, asked: “Is it enough to introvert the mind or should we meditate<br />

on ‘I am Brahman’?”<br />

M.: To introvert the mind is the prime thing. The Buddhists consider the<br />

flow of ‘I’ thought to be Liberation; whereas we say that such flow<br />

proceeds from its underlying substratum - the only - Reality.<br />

Why should one be meditating ‘I am Brahman’? Only the<br />

annihilation of ‘I’ is Liberation. But it can be gained only by<br />

keeping the ‘I-I’ always in view. So the need for the investigation<br />

of the ‘I’ thought. If the ‘I’ is not let go, no blank can result to the<br />

seeker. Otherwise meditation will end in sleep.<br />

There is only one ‘I’ all along, but what arises up from time to time<br />

is the mistaken ‘I-thought’; whereas the intuitive ‘I’ always remains<br />

Self-shining, i.e., even before it becomes manifest.<br />

125

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