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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
15th January, 1936
Talk 135.
Three European ladies from the Theosophical Conference came here
and asked: “Is the whole scheme, the Plan, really good? Or is it in the
nature of an error, a mistake of which we have to make the best?”
M.: The Plan is indeed good. The error is on our part. When we correct
it in ourselves the whole scheme becomes all right.
D.: Have you any formula to teach us how to bring it about through
a remembrance of what we do during sleep?
M.: No formula is needed. Everyone has the experience that he slept
happily and knew nothing then. Nothing else was experienced.
D.: The answer does not satisfy me. We wander in the astral plane in
our sleep but we do not remember it.
M.: The astral plane is concerned with dreams, not with deep sleep.
D.: What do you consider to be the cause of world suffering? And how
can we help to change it, (a) as individuals? or (b) collectively?
M.: Realise the Real Self. It is all that is necessary.
D.: Can we hasten our illumination for greater service? and how?
M.: As we are not able to help ourselves, so we have to surrender
ourselves to the Supreme completely. Then He will take care of
us as well as the world.
D.: What do you consider the goal?
M.: Self-Realisation.
D.: Is there any way to meet the appointed Guru for each?
M.: Intense meditation brings it about.
Talk 136.
Dr. G. H. Mees, a young Dutchman, was here for a few days. He
asked Sri Bhagavan: “I have an impression that in deep sleep I have
something akin to samadhi. Is it so?”
M.: It is the waking ‘I’ that asks the questions - not the ‘I’ in sleep. If
you attain the state of wakeful sleep which is the same as samadhi,
while still awake, doubts will not arise.
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