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Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi
4th January, 1936
Talk 126.
Dr. Syed again asked: “Should anyone desirous of spiritual progress
take to action or renunciation (pravritti-marga or nivritti-marga)?”
M.: Do you go out of the Self? What is meant by giving up?
An American Engineer asked about sat-sanga (association with sages).
M.: Sat is within us.
D.: In the book “Who am I?” you have said the Heart is the seat of
the mind. Is it so?
M.: The mind is Atman.
D.: Is it Atman itself or its projection?
M.: The same.
D.: The Westerners look on the mind as the highest principle, whereas
the Easterners think the contrary - why?
M.: Where psychology ends, there philosophy begins. This is
experience; the mind is born; we see it; even without the mind we
exist. There is everyone’s experience to prove it.
D.: In deep sleep I do not seem to exist.
M.: You say so when awake. It is the mind which speaks now. You
exist in deep sleep beyond mind.
D.: Western philosophy admits the Higher Self as influencing the mind.
Talk 127.
The American Engineer asked: “Does distance have any effect upon
Grace?”
M.: Time and space are within us. You are always in your Self. How
do time and space affect it?
D.: In radio those who are nearer hear sooner. You are Hindu, we are
American. Does it make any difference?
M.: No.
D.: Even thoughts are read by others.
M.: That shows that all are one.
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