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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: Are the objects different from you? There can be no objects<br />

<strong>with</strong>out the subject.<br />

D.: And how shall I know it?<br />

M.: Being That, what do you want to know? Are there two selves for<br />

the one to know the other?<br />

D.: Again, I repeat, sir, how to know the truth of all this and experience<br />

the same?<br />

M.: There is no gaining of anything new. All that is required is to rid<br />

the Self of ignorance. This ignorance is the identification of the<br />

Self <strong>with</strong> the non-Self.<br />

D.: Yes. Still I do not understand. I must have your help. Everyone<br />

here is waiting on you for your Grace. You yourself must have<br />

sought originally the help of a Guru or of God. Extend that Grace<br />

to others now and save me.<br />

Before I came here I desired to see you very much. But somehow<br />

I could not find an opportunity to do so. In Bangalore I made up<br />

my mind to return to my place. I met Mr. Frydman and others<br />

who sent me here. You have dragged me here. My case is like Paul<br />

Brunton’s in Bombay, when he was dragged here having cancelled<br />

his passage home.<br />

I hesitated at first on arrival. I wondered if I would be permitted to<br />

approach you and converse <strong>with</strong> you. My doubts were soon set at<br />

rest. I find that all are equal here. You have established an equality<br />

among all. I dined <strong>with</strong> you and others. If I should say so to my<br />

people in U.P., they would not believe it. The Brahmins would not<br />

drink water <strong>with</strong> me, nor chew pan <strong>with</strong> me. But here you have<br />

taken me and others like me in your fold. Though Gandhi is striving<br />

hard he cannot bring about such a state of affairs in the country. I<br />

am very happy in your presence.<br />

I regard you as God. I consider <strong>Sri</strong> Krishna to be true God because<br />

He has said, “Whomsoever one may worship, the worshipper<br />

worships me only and I save him.” Whereas all others have said,<br />

“Salvation is through me (meaning himself) only,” Krishna alone<br />

is so broad-minded and has spoken like God. You observe the same<br />

kind of equality.<br />

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