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<strong>Talks</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Sri</strong> <strong>Ramana</strong> <strong>Maharshi</strong><br />

M.: The ultimate Truth is so simple. It is nothing more than being in<br />

the pristine state. This is all that need be said.<br />

Still, it is a wonder that to teach this simple Truth there should<br />

come into being so many religions, creeds, methods and disputes<br />

among them and so on! Oh the pity! Oh the pity!<br />

Maj. Chadwick: But people will not be content <strong>with</strong> simplicity; they<br />

want complexity.<br />

M.: Quite so. Because they want something elaborate and attractive<br />

and puzzling, so many religions have come into existence and each<br />

of them is so complex and each creed in each religion has its own<br />

adherents and antagonists.<br />

For example, an ordinary Christian will not be satisfied unless he is<br />

told that God is somewhere in the far-off Heavens not to be reached<br />

by us unaided. Christ alone knew Him and Christ alone can guide<br />

us. Worship Christ and be saved. If told the simple truth - “The<br />

Kingdom of Heaven is <strong>with</strong>in you” - he is not satisfied and will<br />

read complex and far-fetched meanings in such statements. Mature<br />

minds alone can grasp the simple Truth in all its nakedness.<br />

Maj. Chadwick later expressed a certain involuntary fear while<br />

meditating. He feels the spirit separated from the gross body and<br />

the sensation creates a fright.<br />

M.: To whom is the fright? It is all due to the habit of identifying the<br />

body <strong>with</strong> the Self. Repeated experience of separation will make<br />

one familiar and the fright will cease.<br />

Talk 97.<br />

19th November, 1935<br />

One Mr. Ramachandar, a gentleman from Ambala, asked where the<br />

Heart is and what Realisation is.<br />

M.: The Heart is not physical; it is spiritual. Hridayam = hrit + ayam<br />

- This is the centre. It is that from which thoughts arise, on which<br />

they subsist and where they are resolved. The thoughts are the<br />

content of the mind and, they shape the universe. The Heart is<br />

the centre of all. Yatova imani bhutani jayante (that from which<br />

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