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Prosecutor Nice: You then met him on the 23rd of January of 1995, and that was your
fi rst meeting, paragraph 4 I think it is of the perhaps oddly numbered summary. Yes?
Galbraith: Yes, I did.
Prosecutor Nice: What happened there?
Galbraith: I went down to Knin to brief him on the Z-4 political plan that we were
planning to present in the next week. We had lunch, and we had a very engaged
discussion. He was intrigued by the plan. He said that there were a number of features
of the plan that he thought were very interesting. He said that certainly there was room
for improvement. But his general approach was -- he was at least interested in it, and
seeming that this was something worth pursuing.
Prosecutor Nice: Can we look briefl y at Tab 1 of the exhibit. Does this document,
Ambassador, set out the draft Z-4 agreement at that stage?
Galbraith: Yes, it does.
Prosecutor Nice: I don’t want to go through it in detail. You might, I think, express the
view that it was in some ways generous in its terms?
Galbraith: It allowed the Krajina Serbs very, very substantial self-government, indeed
almost total self-government in the territory of Croatia, where according to the 1991
census Serbs were a majority. So yes, it was extremely generous.
Prosecutor Nice: For those particular areas?
Galbraith: For those areas.
Prosecutor Nice: And we’ll just take a couple of examples using the page numbers at the
top. On page number 6 we have fl ags and emblems, its own fl ag.
Galbraith: Th at is correct. Th ey could have their own fl ag and their own emblems.
Prosecutor Nice: Page 10 at the top, currency and taxation covered specifi cally.
Galbraith: Yes. Th e issue of the currency was a very important one, because they objected
to using the Croatian kuna, because they said this was the same currency that had been
used by the fascist Croatian state in the Second World War. And so this plan provided
that they could have their own bank notes. Th ey would call ... they could call them the
dinar or whatever they wanted. Th ey could have their own designs. Although, from a
monetary point of view, it would be the equivalent of the kuna and controlled by the
Croatian Central Bank.
Prosecutor Nice: I see at page 12, its own president, and so on. Yes?
Galbraith: Yes.
Prosecutor Nice: Well, thus you’re meeting with Babić on the 23rd of January. Had there
been a plan that you should meet Martić aft er meeting Babić?
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