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CHAPTER 16. ATHEISM, THEISM AND REALITY<br />

<strong>The</strong>re have been people who use both positive <strong>and</strong> negative together when they explain reality. <strong>The</strong><br />

seers of the UPANISHADS have their own special term: neti-neti, which means it is neither this nor<br />

that, <strong>and</strong> that which is cannot be said. According to them both the theist <strong>and</strong> atheist say half-truths;<br />

they want to say the whole, which cannot be said. In fact, truth is inexpressible. And therefore they<br />

remain silent after saying neti-neti.<br />

<strong>Krishna</strong> need not pass through any kind of atheism, because he is not interested in superficial<br />

theism. <strong>Krishna</strong> knows <strong>and</strong> accepts reality at a depth where names don’t matter. Call it God, call<br />

it prakriti, or nature, call it non-God, or whatever you like, it makes no difference. What is, is. <strong>The</strong><br />

trees will continue to grow as ever, the flowers will continue to blossom. <strong>The</strong> stars will continue to<br />

move, life will continue to appear <strong>and</strong> disappear, waves will continue to rise <strong>and</strong> fall. Whether God<br />

is or not is a debate only fools participate in. That which is, is utterly unconcerned about it all.<br />

I was camping in a village where two old men came to visit me. One of them was a Jaina, the other<br />

a Hindu brahmin. <strong>The</strong>y were old friends <strong>and</strong> neighbors, <strong>and</strong> their debate was just as old. In fact,<br />

all debates are old because there is no end to them. Men <strong>com</strong>e <strong>and</strong> go, but debates go on. Both<br />

friends had passed their sixties. <strong>The</strong> Jaina said to me, ”We <strong>com</strong>e to you with a question which has<br />

been troubling us for the last fifty years. I don’t believe in God, whereas this gentleman believes in<br />

God. What do you say?”<br />

I said to them, ”You two have monopolized the whole debate between you. What is there for a third<br />

person like me to say? Since you have divided the thing between you on a fifty-fifty basis, where do<br />

I <strong>com</strong>e in?” <strong>The</strong>n I asked them, ”You have argued for the last half century; why couldn’t you <strong>com</strong>e to<br />

a decision?”<br />

<strong>The</strong> brahmin friend said, ”I hold on to my arguments because I like them, <strong>and</strong> my friend holds on to<br />

his because he likes them. And neither of us has been able to convince the other.”<br />

I said, ”You have carried on this debate for fifty years, but do you know how long mankind has been<br />

debating over it? From time immemorial man has been arguing over it. Up to now, however, no<br />

theist has been able to convert an atheist to his point of view. Similarly no atheist has convinced a<br />

theist. And the dispute goes on unabated. It shows that each side has a half truth with it; that is they<br />

cling to it so tenaciously. If you have one end of reality in your h<strong>and</strong>s, how can you believe there is<br />

another end to it?”<br />

I told them, ”I can be of help to you only if I <strong>com</strong>pletely keep out of the dispute. If I get involved, all I<br />

can do is to take up one of the two positions that you hold, but it will make no difference whatsoever<br />

So I say to you, give up arguing <strong>and</strong> try to see the other side of the coin, if there is some truth in<br />

what the other person says. You don’t insist on your own truth. I concede that there is some truth in<br />

what you say. From now on try to see the other side of reality. Give up believing that what the other<br />

says is all wrong; try to find out if there is some truth with him. That will be much more helpful.”<br />

<strong>The</strong>n I asked the Hindu gentleman, ”What will you do if it is proved with certainty that God is?”<br />

He answered, ”<strong>The</strong>re is nothing to be done.” <strong>His</strong> Jaina friend said the same thing when I con, fronted<br />

him with the question; What will you do if it is proved that God is not?<br />

<strong>Krishna</strong>: <strong>The</strong> <strong>Man</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>His</strong> <strong>Philosophy</strong> 320 <strong>Osho</strong>

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