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CHAPTER 16. ATHEISM, THEISM AND REALITY the new house. If it had happened gradually over time his parents would not have been so frightened. And even more intriguing was that as soon as he was taken from the new house for a while he was his old self again. He was okay when he was brought to me. The young man himself said that in my presence he was feeling fine but the moment he entered that house everything turned upside down. I put the young man under hypnosis and questioned him for a while. A harrowing story emerged from the session and it stretches over a period of eleven hundred years. This new house where the young man lives is a haunted house. The spirit which haunts it happened to be the owner of the land on which the present house stands. And for these eleven hundred years this spirit has been continuously engaged in getting members of a particular family murdered. He has, up to now, thirty five murders to his credit, spread over many generations. The spirit said that he would not leave this young man until he committed a murder for him. Eleven centuries ago, members of the family that happen to be targets of the ghost’s vendetta had murdered him on this very farm. Since then his ghost has been continuously camping here busy avenging his own death. And the ghost takes every care to trace the members of the family as they are born and reborn and gets them killed through such mediums as this young man. Evil souls send their own messages and do their own things. Many times you are made to do things, good or bad. You think you did them. No, you are made to do these things by bodiless souls that lurk around everywhere. Sometimes you are amazed at your own performance. Never mind others, you yourself refuse to believe that you could do such a great thing. In fact some bodiless soul is behind it; he is getting it done through you. There is nothing wrong in Bailey’s statement, but she cannot prove its authenticity. No one can, Not even Madame Blavatsky could do it with the large volume of such messages she had received. In this context I will explain further an event which I mentioned a little while ago. I said that a great experiment was being carried out with Krishnamurti and it failed. The venture was such that any number of godly souls got themselves involved in it in a concerted way. They were trying to see to it that a consciousness of the height of Buddha, Mahavira or Krishna enters the person of Krishnamurti. In fact, such a consciousness was already waiting for an opportunity like this. A promise given by Buddha before he left his physical body was close to its time of fulfill ment. Buddha had said that after twenty-five hundred years, he would visit this earth once again in the name of Maitreya. So Buddha’s own soul, his own incarnation, has been waiting to come here in the form of Maitreya But a suitable body, a right medium for his incarnation was not available. Theosophy’s whole planning and efforts for a hundred years were consecrated in the search of a medium for Maitreya’s incarnation. So they worked on four or five persons, but they failed in every case. They spent most of their attention and energy on Krishnamurti, but they could not succeed. The most important reason for the failure of this great effort was the effort itself; the theosophists really overdid it. All those who were involved in this venture concentrated their efforts on Krishnamurti and pressured him so much that his individuality revolted against them. Krishnamurti reacted and said a big No. Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy 312 Osho

CHAPTER 16. ATHEISM, THEISM AND REALITY Forty years have passed since, but Krishnamurti has not been able to go beyond his reaction against the theosophists and all others who were after him. He continues to speak against them – who are now no more in this world. Whatever he says is tinged with the bitterness the old experience has left in him. Deep down the wound remains unhealed. It was really a mistake to have selected Krishnamurti as a medium for Maitreya’s incarnation. No doubt he was a very suitable soul, but he was much too evolved for being a medium for another soul – however high it may be. He could not be persuaded to be a medium. A weaker soul than Krishnamurti’s should have been chosen. In fact, the theosophists had also worked on some weaker souls, but they were much too weak to be a vehicle for Maitreya. This was their dilemma: a superior soul like Krishnamurti’s did not consent to be the vehicle, and inferior souls lacked in the requisite qualities. As long as Krishnamurti was in his teens he conformed to their wishes and demands, but as he grew in age and awareneSS, he began to resist their efforts and ultimately walked out of their court. Thus a great venture failed, Maitreya’s soul is still wandering, and it is difficult to say how long it will take to find a suitable vehicle for his incarnation. Those who are suitable as mediums don’t agree to be vehicles for others. They are mature enough to be on their own And those who agree are not that worthy So the possibility of his incarnation is diminishing as time passes by. And there seems to be no more any organized efforts being made in this direction. Maybe some accidental planning will work, as it has in the past. Nobody had to be persuaded for the soul born first as Gautam Siddhartha, who later transformed himself into Bud&a, the awakened one. He found an appropriate womb and became embodied. Similarly Mahavira came to this world through another womb. But then wombs of such superior quality are becoming rarer and rarer. Question 2 QUESTIONER: IT TAKES AT LEAST FOUR HOURS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE OF THE GEETA CONSISTING OF EIGHTEEN CHAPTERS AND SEVEN HUNDRED AND ONE SHLOKAS – COUPLETS. DOES IT MEAN THAT THE BATTLE OF THE MAHABHARAT WAS ADJOURNED FOR THIS LENGTH OF TIME WHEN THE DIALOGUE BETWEEN KRISHNA AND ARJUNA WAS GOING ON? That’s right! Please sit down. Question 3 QUESTIONER: THE OTHER DAY YOU SAID THAT A SOUL IS REBORN WITHIN A YEAR OF ITS LEAVING ITS FORMER BODY, AND JUST NOW YOU SAID THAT A CERTAIN GHOST LIVED IN THE BODILESS STATE FOR ELEVEN HUNDRED YEARS. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE CONTRADICTION. Yes, there are a few people who have extraordinary memory. People with ordinary memory don’t take much time for being born. But those of extraordinary memory, who are few and far between, do take time. Curzon, a former British viceroy of India, has mentioned an event in his memoirs. Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy 313 Osho

CHAPTER 16. ATHEISM, THEISM AND REALITY<br />

the new house. If it had happened gradually over time his parents would not have been so frightened.<br />

And even more intriguing was that as soon as he was taken from the new house for a while he was<br />

his old self again. He was okay when he was brought to me. <strong>The</strong> young man himself said that in my<br />

presence he was feeling fine but the moment he entered that house everything turned upside down.<br />

I put the young man under hypnosis <strong>and</strong> questioned him for a while. A harrowing story emerged<br />

from the session <strong>and</strong> it stretches over a period of eleven hundred years.<br />

This new house where the young man lives is a haunted house. <strong>The</strong> spirit which haunts it happened<br />

to be the owner of the l<strong>and</strong> on which the present house st<strong>and</strong>s. And for these eleven hundred years<br />

this spirit has been continuously engaged in getting members of a particular family murdered. He<br />

has, up to now, thirty five murders to his credit, spread over many generations. <strong>The</strong> spirit said that<br />

he would not leave this young man until he <strong>com</strong>mitted a murder for him.<br />

Eleven centuries ago, members of the family that happen to be targets of the ghost’s vendetta had<br />

murdered him on this very farm. Since then his ghost has been continuously camping here busy<br />

avenging his own death. And the ghost takes every care to trace the members of the family as they<br />

are born <strong>and</strong> reborn <strong>and</strong> gets them killed through such mediums as this young man.<br />

Evil souls send their own messages <strong>and</strong> do their own things. <strong>Man</strong>y times you are made to do things,<br />

good or bad. You think you did them. No, you are made to do these things by bodiless souls that<br />

lurk around everywhere. Sometimes you are amazed at your own performance. Never mind others,<br />

you yourself refuse to believe that you could do such a great thing. In fact some bodiless soul is<br />

behind it; he is getting it done through you.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re is nothing wrong in Bailey’s statement, but she cannot prove its authenticity. No one can, Not<br />

even Madame Blavatsky could do it with the large volume of such messages she had received.<br />

In this context I will explain further an event which I mentioned a little while ago. I said that a<br />

great experiment was being carried out with <strong>Krishna</strong>murti <strong>and</strong> it failed. <strong>The</strong> venture was such that<br />

any number of godly souls got themselves involved in it in a concerted way. <strong>The</strong>y were trying to<br />

see to it that a consciousness of the height of Buddha, Mahavira or <strong>Krishna</strong> enters the person<br />

of <strong>Krishna</strong>murti. In fact, such a consciousness was already waiting for an opportunity like this. A<br />

promise given by Buddha before he left his physical body was close to its time of fulfill ment. Buddha<br />

had said that after twenty-five hundred years, he would visit this earth once again in the name of<br />

Maitreya.<br />

So Buddha’s own soul, his own incarnation, has been waiting to <strong>com</strong>e here in the form of Maitreya<br />

But a suitable body, a right medium for his incarnation was not available. <strong>The</strong>osophy’s whole<br />

planning <strong>and</strong> efforts for a hundred years were consecrated in the search of a medium for Maitreya’s<br />

incarnation. So they worked on four or five persons, but they failed in every case. <strong>The</strong>y spent most<br />

of their attention <strong>and</strong> energy on <strong>Krishna</strong>murti, but they could not succeed.<br />

<strong>The</strong> most important reason for the failure of this great effort was the effort itself; the theosophists<br />

really overdid it. All those who were involved in this venture concentrated their efforts on<br />

<strong>Krishna</strong>murti <strong>and</strong> pressured him so much that his individuality revolted against them. <strong>Krishna</strong>murti<br />

reacted <strong>and</strong> said a big No.<br />

<strong>Krishna</strong>: <strong>The</strong> <strong>Man</strong> <strong>and</strong> <strong>His</strong> <strong>Philosophy</strong> 312 <strong>Osho</strong>

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