Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy - Osho - Oshorajneesh.com

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Question 1
CHAPTER 16
Atheism, Theism and Reality
QUESTIONER: ARVIND HAD SEEN VISIONS OF KRISHNA AND BEEN IN CONTACT WITH
YOGI LELE. IS IT THAT A FINAL JUDGEMENT ON THE EXPERIMENTS CONDUCTED AT
PONDICHERRY WILL BE MADE BY FUTURE GENERATIONS? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ALICE
BAILEY WHO CLAIMS TO RECEIVE MESSAGES? WHERE DO THE MESSAGES COME FROM?
AND HOW? DO YOU TOO HAVE SUCH ESOTERIC CONTACTS WITH SOME MASTERS?
Arvind sees visions of Krishna inside a prison, in the walls of the prison, in the prisoners’ faces and
in himself. But who is the one who knows that he sees visions of Krishna? If there is a knower then
it is surely his own mental projection. If someone says he sees Krishna, it means the one who sees
is not Krishna; he is bound to be different from Krishna.
The oceanic, universal form of Krishna is something entirely different from Krishna the man
who happened some five thousand years ago. But his universal form, which is universal
subconsciousness, is eternal. And one who encounters the universal consciousness ceases to
be an ego; he disappears as he is and turns into that universal intelligence itself. You can call it by
the name of Krishna, Christ, or Buddha, or whatever you like. Names don’t matter; the choice of
name depends on the cultural background of the one who encounters it. And once someone comes
in contact with this supreme intelligence – provided it is real, not imaginary – he is lost in it forever.
Come what may, he cannot stage a comeback to his old life of misery and pain. Once someone
really comes to this ultimate intelligence, he can never be deprived of it,
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