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CHAPTER 15. LIFE AFTER DEATH AND REBIRTH Thirdly, it is quite possible to establish con tact with souls who have left their bodies but have not attained to their oceanic existence. If someone dies without being enlightened he will continue to live in his subtle body; he will not be one with his oceanic form. And it is possible, with the help of certain techniques, to come in contact with such souls living in their subtle forms. There is no difficulty about it. Krishna’s soul cannot be available in his subtle body. He has transcended all his seven bodies and become one with the universal existence, therefore you cannot come in contact with him in the way you come in contact with ordinary souls that hang around their old world. For instance, Gandhi is a soul with a subtle body, and he can easily be contacted. There are rules and techniques for establishing contact with them. Many times such souls make efforts on their own to contact their friends and relatives. But they scare us, because we don’t want to come in contact even with the souls of those dear to us. They now belong to an alien world unknown to us. Even if the spirit of one who was in his lifetime dearest to your heart appears at your door, you will scream with fright and run away from him. You will shout for help, because you were acquainted only with his physical body; his astral body is alien to you. So it is easy to establish contact with a soul that is bodiless and is hungering for a new body. It is not a matter of mental projection on the part of one who wishes to come in contact with such a soul who has everything except the gross body. Very simple devices are available with which you can connect with such a spirit if you want to. For instance, so many of us are sitting here discussing Krishna and his philosophy. Do you think there are only as many persons here as are visible to our eyes? No, there are many more who are invisibly present here, and they can be contacted right now, if you wish. What you need is a willingness on your part to come in contact with them and certain receptivity toward it. You can make an experiment as I suggest. Three of you can go into a room, close it from inside and sit quietly with your eyes closed and hands folded in the way of namaskar – salutation. Then say prayer fully that if there are any souls in this room, they should contact you all in the way you suggest – say by knocking at the door. And soon you will hear a knock at the door where there is no one with a body. You can suggest to the invisible soul present in the room to answer your questions through a paperweight Lying on the table before you, and you will see that within three to four days the spirit will begin to answer your questions through the medium of the paperweight. Then you can carry the experiment further; it is not that difficult. There are any number of bodiless spirits hanging around you everywhere and al ways, who are willing to communicate with you, but they have no way to do so, because we are aware of only one way of communication and that is through our physical bodies. And there is no bridge what soever between us and the bodiless souls. But there are simple devices, which form a part of occultism, to come in contact with them. You also want to know if man’s soul can leave his physical body, travel astrally and then return to his body again. It is quite possible that you leave your body, go out of it, travel astrally and then return to your body as you like. The physical body is only an abode and you can go out of it if you know the right techniques to do it. There is a special discipline, a whole science about it. Sometimes it happens accidently without any efforts on your part. In moments of deep meditation you will find that you are out of your physical body and watching it from a distance. There is a whole occult science, and we can go into it separately at some different time. Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy 290 Osho
CHAPTER 15. LIFE AFTER DEATH AND REBIRTH Question 4 QUESTIONER: IS THERE A WAY, APART FROM OCCULTISM, TO KNOW INTELLECTUALLY ABOUT THE SOUL AND ITS REBIRTH? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THE EXISTENCE OF THE SOUL AND THE FACT OF REBIRTH BE PROVED PHILOSOPHICALLY WITHOUT THE HELP OF A PRACTICAL DISCIPLINE? HOW IS IT THAT A BODILESS SPIRIT KNOWS ALL ABOUT ITS PREVIOUS LIFE? IS IT THAT ONLY A SOUL THAT LEAVES ITS BODY WITH AWARENESS COMES TO REMEMBER ITS PAST LIFE? Ordinarily when a person dies, it is only his physical body that dies, he and his mind do not die with the body. Ordinarily the mind of the dying person goes with him, and for a little while after death he retains all his memory of his previous life. It is like what happens with our dreams. After you wake up from sleep you remember your dreams for a little while. Slowly the memory of dreams begins to fade and by noontime it fades away completely. And by the even ing you cannot say even a word about them. Although you dream in your sleep, in your unconscious state, yet on waking you can clearly recall a few fragments of your dreams, particularly the latter part of your last dream. It happens because in the latter part of your sleep you begin to wake up and you are only half asleep. You can remember the dreams fully or partly that visit you in your half-asleep and half-waking state. But even this memory does not last long; as hours pass it disappears. In the same way a man’s bodiless soul remembers its previous life, its friends and relatives for a little while after his death. And this memory is rather painful, because he cannot relate with them any more. It is for this reason that we do a few things. Soon after someone close to us meets his death, so that he is relieved of the memories of his past associations and attachments. Now it is not good to carry them, because they are very painful. Hindus cremate the dead bodies of their relatives soon after their death; they try not to delay if it is avoidable. And it is significant. Cremation destroys all identity and attachment of the dead with their bodies, because they remember their past only through the medium of their dead bodies. The dead body serves as a bridge between the released soul and his past life. So cremation is in the interest of the departed souls. When somebody dies suddenly or in an accident, he doesn’t know he is dead. For a little while he feels stunned and bewildered to see that he is separated from his body, maybe, something has gone wrong somewhere. It happens because inside the body nothing really dies except that the soul leaves the body. Not a few, but the majority of souls feel utterly confused and confounded soon after their death. No one can figure out why his family members are weeping and crying, why there is so much grief all around, because he feels as much alive as before, except that his body is a little separate from him. It is the body that gives him a sense of continuity, because it is the medium of all his associations with the past. Only meditative people, those who have experienced deep meditation can escape being pulled and bewildered, because they know that they are separate from their bodies. Soon after cremation or burial of a dead body the soul is gradually freed from its past memories and associations. It is like we gradually forget our dreams. It is on the reckoning of time taken by different kinds of souls that we have different death rites for our dead. Some people, particularly children take only three days to forget their past associations. Most others take thirteen days; so Krishna: The Man and His Philosophy 291 Osho
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CHAPTER 15. LIFE AFTER DEATH AND REBIRTH<br />
Question 4<br />
QUESTIONER: IS THERE A WAY, APART FROM OCCULTISM, TO KNOW INTELLECTUALLY<br />
ABOUT THE SOUL AND ITS REBIRTH? IN OTHER WORDS, CAN THE EXISTENCE OF THE<br />
SOUL AND THE FACT OF REBIRTH BE PROVED PHILOSOPHICALLY WITHOUT THE HELP<br />
OF A PRACTICAL DISCIPLINE? HOW IS IT THAT A BODILESS SPIRIT KNOWS ALL ABOUT<br />
ITS PREVIOUS LIFE? IS IT THAT ONLY A SOUL THAT LEAVES ITS BODY WITH AWARENESS<br />
COMES TO REMEMBER ITS PAST LIFE?<br />
Ordinarily when a person dies, it is only his physical body that dies, he <strong>and</strong> his mind do not die with<br />
the body. Ordinarily the mind of the dying person goes with him, <strong>and</strong> for a little while after death he<br />
retains all his memory of his previous life. It is like what happens with our dreams. After you wake<br />
up from sleep you remember your dreams for a little while. Slowly the memory of dreams begins to<br />
fade <strong>and</strong> by noontime it fades away <strong>com</strong>pletely. And by the even ing you cannot say even a word<br />
about them.<br />
Although you dream in your sleep, in your unconscious state, yet on waking you can clearly recall a<br />
few fragments of your dreams, particularly the latter part of your last dream. It happens because in<br />
the latter part of your sleep you begin to wake up <strong>and</strong> you are only half asleep. You can remember<br />
the dreams fully or partly that visit you in your half-asleep <strong>and</strong> half-waking state. But even this<br />
memory does not last long; as hours pass it disappears. In the same way a man’s bodiless soul<br />
remembers its previous life, its friends <strong>and</strong> relatives for a little while after his death. And this memory<br />
is rather painful, because he cannot relate with them any more.<br />
It is for this reason that we do a few things. Soon after someone close to us meets his death, so that<br />
he is relieved of the memories of his past associations <strong>and</strong> attachments. Now it is not good to carry<br />
them, because they are very painful. Hindus cremate the dead bodies of their relatives soon after<br />
their death; they try not to delay if it is avoidable. And it is significant. Cremation destroys all identity<br />
<strong>and</strong> attachment of the dead with their bodies, because they remember their past only through the<br />
medium of their dead bodies. <strong>The</strong> dead body serves as a bridge between the released soul <strong>and</strong> his<br />
past life. So cremation is in the interest of the departed souls.<br />
When somebody dies suddenly or in an accident, he doesn’t know he is dead. For a little while<br />
he feels stunned <strong>and</strong> bewildered to see that he is separated from his body, maybe, something has<br />
gone wrong somewhere. It happens because inside the body nothing really dies except that the<br />
soul leaves the body. Not a few, but the majority of souls feel utterly confused <strong>and</strong> confounded soon<br />
after their death. No one can figure out why his family members are weeping <strong>and</strong> crying, why there<br />
is so much grief all around, because he feels as much alive as before, except that his body is a<br />
little separate from him. It is the body that gives him a sense of continuity, because it is the medium<br />
of all his associations with the past. Only meditative people, those who have experienced deep<br />
meditation can escape being pulled <strong>and</strong> bewildered, because they know that they are separate from<br />
their bodies.<br />
Soon after cremation or burial of a dead body the soul is gradually freed from its past memories<br />
<strong>and</strong> associations. It is like we gradually forget our dreams. It is on the reckoning of time taken by<br />
different kinds of souls that we have different death rites for our dead. Some people, particularly<br />
children take only three days to forget their past associations. Most others take thirteen days; so<br />
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