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The Book of Urantia = Biggest Crock of Bullshit 

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Candace, 

so go back to the threads you can control 

there will be no peace for you here 

Quoting: YAHisking 

Nobody in Particular 

Paradise Citizen attempting to reduce BLING 

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7/18/2011 10:13 AM 

Oh you made that obvious, that is why you came to this thread. Know that , that which you send 

out will be returned unto you Yah at least 7 times. this rule you should know as a black magician. 

Last Edited by Nobody in Particular on 7/18/2011 10:14 AM 

Anonymous Coward 

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7/18/2011 10:14 AM 

believers do not speak to God through telepathy. We communicate in the same way we speak to 

anyone. We believe and communicate with our mind, heart, strength. If you want to call prayer 

telepathy, then you choose this word. I don't see too much harm in that. However, you are deeply 

entrenched in deception and are being blinded to the truth. Only certain people are chosen to have 

their eyes and heart open to the truth. Perhaps your zeal for alternative dogma is your blinder. You 

can repent and come to God. Then all the angels will shout with resounding joy. 


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7/18/2011 10:15 AM 

Candace, 




-- AH- Candace GLP #9- 2-- page. 1



Quoting: Nobody in Particular 

i grieve for you. 


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7/18/2011 10:18 AM 

I don't think I have ever read a book more pretentious and linguistically convoluted than The 

Urantia Book. This is a book filled with unnecessary descriptive language, over use of adjectives, 

and drags on to the point of complete and utter boredom. 

In contrast, the bible seems like a well written work compared to this amateurish endeavor at 

creating a new religion. For me, Urantia was a complete and utter fail. At least the bible was 

genuine in the fact that the men who wrote and compiled it likely believed much of what they 

wrote, even though they were wrong in many cases. Urantia on the other hand lacks any sense of 

the genuine. You can tell this book was made up from scratch, and it contains no useful 

information. 

Are we to honestly believe that this book was divinely delivered? Give me a fucking break! There 

isn't one snippet of useful, enlightening, or astounding information contained in there. Granted, I 

didn't read the whole thing, only bits and pieces here in there. How the fuck can anyone actually 

read this entire mess? 

Go ahead and prove me wrong if you disagree. Please provide some enlightening quotes if you 

think I am wrong. 

One thing all religions have in common when ever I study them is they never fail to disappoint. 

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1141097 

well then you did NOT read it and what you have stated proves it is too past your ability to 

comprehend it. Just because this is so, is not reason to trash it. It has everything genuine about it 

and you are a shill. By your fruits. It is divinely delivered yes, but so man rejects hugely the divine. 

Not knowing what it is. 

There is a thread here full of enlightening quotes from it. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] 

This book is not made up from scratch, it is too organized and I have taken that trip to Paradise 

myself and am in contact with many here to help this planet. the book is REAL. 


Wrong, 

This is channeled book, no prophecy, no prophets 

just a space alien love story 


sci-fi mixed with satans lies 

this book only fools the heathen 

I pray deceivers like cadance would just get a clue 


YAH your SHILLING IS SO OBVIOUS this morning. I am taking leave of this thread unless 

someone who is real posts honestly here. I am not dealing with you shills anymore. YAH is here 

to finish destroying the thread. How do I know, because she has done it before, and also 

because she communicated by PM with me before and let me know the agenda. So GOOD BYE, 

hope those of you who are sincere enjoyed the material and have bookmarked it if necessary. I 

will not deal further with shills, because of their purpose of being shills. Yah came to GLP at the 

same time frame several others did, to destroy God's work, so be it. It was when we announced 

that many from above would be walking the planet, and they are here still, but the thugs got really 

worried back then and lashed out big time, so we went quiet to their appearances for a time. We 

are still be quiet, dear thugs and shills. 

Obviously YAH has NOT read those 2000+ pages. The post screams of that. I hope you real and 

sincere readers are not put off by it, because that is what the shills here are trying to do, to keep 

sheeples in line. Heaven forbid they find their godhood within them. YAH and TXGal would prefer 

you ones never come to know the power of the FAther Fragment and your own mind within you. 

They would prefer you continue to manufacture demons, which I explained above. These are 

nothing more than thought forms. Demons are not entities. They are more like a computer virus. 

They are created by the imagination and then used in black magic to bother other people. These 

ones who are shilling want you in fact to get so angry with me, that you will create demons 

directed at me. I brush them off readily when I sense it. You ones are dark, not of the light. This 

thread is full of witchcraft in that sense, the shill posts. They know how to play the game. Its not 

just words, their actions speak. 


This thread hasn't been destroyed. The thread is ABOUT the Urantia book being, what was that, 

oh, "a crock of bulls*i*" 

Did you forget which thread you were on? 


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7/18/2011 10:23 AM 

channelled information that lacks a source is the biggest and most important clue that it is not from 

God. Why would any intelligent and discerning person take data from an unknown source that 

clearly contradicts everything written of God, and find it to be sound, credible and reliable unless 

they are hell-bent on moving AWAY from God? 


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7/18/2011 10:24 AM 


NIP, Would you explain white lighting. I've never 

heard of it. 



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7/18/2011 10:27 AM 








Thankyou AC 3099 Prayer is telepathy. even spoken prayer by mouth is" heard" by your guides 

and Father Fragment before it comes it comes out your mouth, because it must be formed IN THE 

MIND, before the nervous system puts it out orally. Your MIND controls you brain and body. Your 

brain is not the mind, it is an interface between the mind and the body temple. 

I am not deeply entrenched in deception. This is a UB thread, so please share your experiences 

with that! I am deeply deeply entrenched in getting truth to this sorry confused world that remains 

riddled in superstition. And so are those that care for these worlds and the evolution of mind upon 

them. Truth was promised before the end of this age, and it has been and is being given. Just 

because what I teach does not match the dark teachings does not mean what I teach and pass 

thru is dark. You ones must realize GOD IS WITHIN YOU and stop looking at the sky when you 

pray. God is not up in the sky. Well, Michael and the others are I guess, in craft, but you should 

get my gist. There is only ONE MIND of the creation. You are a part of that MIND. If you wish to 

progress in your spiritual growth, you must practice constantly to make your life choices in 

alignment with the Father Within YOU and Within the Spirit of Truth bestowed on this world. 

Pay close attention to your every choice, because that is where your growth IS. YOUR CHOICES. 

At the end of each day, or at some point reasonable to you, you MUST review your day and your 

choice and whether they were in alignment with the Father's Will. or not. Most people do not 

bother doing this, but this is exactly what you must do if you have any desire to do the Father's Will 

in all things. 

People are not chosen to have their hearts opened, ONLY EACH ONE can choose to open their 

heart and minds. It is YOUR heart and your mind and NOBDDY, not even the famous NOBODY of 


the NOBODY thread can do it for you. Your guides will put opportunities before you to assist, but 

only you can take advantage! 

YAHisking 

YHVH = YAHUSHUA 

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7/18/2011 10:28 AM 

Candace, 







Bring it! 

Tell your demons they have no power over me! 

My power comes from the Spirit of the Most High God 

not some fake aton 



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7/18/2011 10:29 AM 





White lighting merely means to draw beautiful white light of Christ or God, whatever term you wish 

around you. You can FEEL it when you do. It is protective and will mirror black magic demons 

back to those that send them. And doing so raises your own vibration upwards. 

When I need to relax I like to do it. I draw it thru my crown and around my body, like an "egg" of 

sorts and just relax into it. 


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7/18/2011 10:30 AM 

actually... the mind is the soul. The soul is your mind, will and emotions/proverbial "heart". So 

when i say we pray with our mind, it is in actuality the soul that prays. 

i won't engage in harsh debate with you. but, i will pray on your behalf that the hardness of your 

heart is removed and your eyes are opened. I can see that you have many demons guiding your 

thinking and clearly have kept you in bondage. 

come back to the Most High God, prodigal one. 



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7/18/2011 10:33 AM 

Candace, 








Bring it! 





The term MOST HIGH God, Yah, is a term for the constellation Fathers who are involved in the 

affairs of man, nothing more, nothing less. they are administrators. They are not the FATHER. 

They are not the spirit within you. 

And its your GUARDIAN angels who actually GUARD you. 

I have no demons and I do not send out demon thought forms to anyone. I do white light myself 

which will mirror the dark arrows sent to me back to the sender. White lighting is a very effective 

tool. 



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7/18/2011 10:34 AM 






back to those that send them. And doing so raises your own vibration upwards. 




ahhhh...teaching people to bring white light around them. great deceptive practice. 

there is no need for this. all one has to do is mere ask for God's comfort, healing, closeness.... and 

it will come. it is not a white light that brings God closer. just a simple request. 

another tactic to interfere with direct communication with God. 

NEW AGE MUMBO JUMBO DESIGNED TO DRIVE A WEDGE BETWEEN PEOPLE AND GOD 


YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 10:36 AM 

YOU TRULY DON'T UNDERSTAND REDEMPTION DO YOU 

NEW AGE IS SELF WORSHIP, MAKING MAN INTO GODS 

IN CASE YOU DIDNT UNDERSTAND, THE UNIVERSE HAS BEEN IN AN ALL OUT BATTLE 

BETWEEN THE SONS OF LIGHT AND THE SONS OF DARKNESS 

FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS! 

POPULATIONS EITHER HAVE ACCEPTED THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MOST HIGH OR 

THEY ARE SIDED WITH THE DRAGON EMPIRE 

THERE IS MUCH EVIL IN THE UNIVERSE, THE MAIN EVIL IN OUR ARM OF THE GALAXY IS 

SIRIUS BLACK, THEY HAVE MINGLED WITH THE SEED OF MEN FOR 100,000S YEARS 

SOME CALLED THIS THE NEPHILIM, THE BIBLE CONTAINS MANY TRUTHS ABOUT THIS 

MATTER 

ALL THIS EVIL IS ABOUT TO COME TO AN END. ONCE THE END OF 7 YEARS OF JACOBS 

TROUBLES ALL EVIL IN THE UNIVERSE WILL CEASE! 

ASCENDED MASTERS, BROTHERHOOD OF MELKIZDEK, LORDS OF LIGHT, 

BROTHERHOOD OF MICHAEL, LORD SANANDA, APOLLO, ATON, ALL THESE MIGHT ONES 

WILL DIE LIKE MEN! 


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7/18/2011 10:39 AM 







ack to those that send them. And doing so raises your own vibration upwards. 




Thank you. 


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7/18/2011 10:43 AM 

Binding the Strongman 

It is really amazing how some people can see things so differently than others, and can twist 

things to sound just the way that they want it to sound. And, these days, if we are not really 

careful, the enemy can come in and convince us that a particular situation or an event or 

circumstance is one way, when in all actuality, it is not. 

We see this happening more and more, and I guess, as well we should expect it, as the Bible says 

that it will be that way in the last days. In 2 Timothy, Chapter 3, vss 5, 7, and 8 it tells us that 

there will be people that have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, and that 

they are ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth--and that they 

will actually resist the truth. Then it goes on in vs. 13 to say: "But evil men and seducers shall 

wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived". 

Further, in vs 14, it says: "But continue thou in the things which thou has learned and has been 

assured of, knowing of whom thou has learned them." You see, Scriptures were written as the 

inspired Word of God. In other words, the Holy Spirit has actually led these men, such as Paul, to 

write these words. They were not written to just fill up the Bible, but to teach us, and so that we 

could learn more about how the enemy fights us, and for those of us in the Ministry, to teach 

others how to fight these kinds of things. 

Now, the enemy has always been here to taunt and tempt and tear up people's lives, but there has 

never been a battle such as there is raging now, in these last days. There is only one War--the 

one between God and satan, but there are many, many battles in that war, just as in any 

war that we see fought out here on this earth between the natural man and his enemies. 

God, in His Word, teaches us through the Scriptures in the Bible how to defend ourselves, and He 

is constantly showing us in the Word just how the enemy (satan) attacks and what he uses to pull 

us away from God and His Promises. 

Now, we can go on down in 2 Timothy 4:2-4, and see exactly what we can watch for as there are 

warnings, and there are commandments which we must follow in order to win the battles that we 

fight on a daily basis in our walk with the Lord. I have to tell you that satan will use anything 

that he can--it just does not matter how he does it, as long as he gets the job done, and he 

pulls you down, and or away from God. 

ou need to know right now that if something just doesn't sound quite right, that it probably is not. If 

it doesn't lift you up, and if you don't feel quite right about it in your spirit man, down deep inside, it 

is not of God, and you need to get away from it, and you need to pray that God keeps you away 


from it, and if you have engaged in some part of it, you also need to repent of it, and keep away 

from it and don't let it back in the next time!!!! It is a daily battle that is raging, and it is not only 

affecting our lives for today, but it is also planning our life for all eternity and once we get there, 

there is no turning back--no re-doing anything, no repenting, just pain, torture, and torment, and 

burning, and biting, and pinching and all imaginable bad things. 

[link to www.harvest-deliverance.com] 


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7/18/2011 10:49 AM 

Candace, 







Bring it! 











tool. 


wow, girl... you are more than a little misled and confused. Everything you say here is in complete 

and total contradiction to God. 

God is the "father" or "source". He is triune being, not a constellation.... 

However, just as Satan does, there is some truth in there. The angels do guard, but everything 


they do is under God's holy command. 

I don't know if human power can help you at this point. You have many demons oppressing you. 

And since you deceive others publicly and with fervor, i am willing to bet you may be possessed. 

repent, come back to the "source" 


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7/18/2011 10:53 AM 

This thread is FUNNY AS HELL! 

YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 10:56 AM 

here is the lowdown on NIP aka candace 

No one of the predictions of Candace Frieze become reality. 

Since 2006 she was talking about the First Contact, 2007 Jupiter became sun, mars 2009 again 

Jupiter and earthquake, immobilization and now the new entertainment: reverse something. 

All these years of energy which is spending by the people who follow you instead of grown 

spirituality and consuming waiting the apocalypses 

Candace who continually publish CIA MK-Ultra mind-controlled rubbish to fool the people and 

create negative energy through confusion and fear. 

She is the source of the fake Christ Michael messages and the garbage of the Jupiter Event and 

stasis, and she shall be held accountable for her evil actions of misleading the people and causing 

great fear. 

The stasis event is pure nonsense. The Realms of Light are bound by the Cosmic Law of Non- 

Intervention. This even flies in the face of the Cosmic Law of Cause and Effect. 

Since the summer of 2005 she was gradually placed under CIA mind-control, when her increasing 

ego caused her to lose her Divine Protection. The Jews_are_great website is fooling many people 

with disinformation. Candace has been pulled into the Mormon camp and their plan to become the 

One World religion. The Mormon Church had great input in the compilation of the Urantia Book, 

and much of it is simply not Truth. 

Creator God Aton is the main author of the Phoenix Journals, and He has made it quite clear to us 


that His name is not Christ Michael. Candace uses some of the Phoenix Journal material and the 

name, Aton 

People must learn to be discerning. There is no Stasis (sleep) Event, no Jupiter Event, no 

GESARA, no Plan A of a smooth transition of Earth Shan and all people living happily ever after in 

a grand paradise on our earth. Candace has concocted (no, the CIA has) the "Sovereign Integral 

Network" (SIN) nonsense, etc. The souled being already has a God-connection to Creator Source 

through his God Spirit within. Candace has kept many people, especially on the West and East 

Coasts of the U.S., in fear for their survival. 

The CIA is one agency often used for such purposes (mind control),. They may test us by putting 

out garbage on the Internet to see how much they can fool us, how gullible we are, especially the 

"enlightened ones, who are a threat because they can discern Truth. 

You need to develop your critical skills. Educate yourself. Channelled messages and all those 

"metaphysical" sites won't really educate you. What they do is confuse you. When you're in a 

confused state of mind you are easily tricked and deluded, hypnotized, and led into wherever the 

hypnotizer wants to lead you, whatever twisted philosophy or ideology. And this is being done to 

you without your being aware of what's happening. But it's a technique really, or a bunch of 

techniques. Those techniques will not lead you to enlightenment. They lead to confusion, 

misguidance, illusions, delusions and utter nonsense. In short: they aim to bullshit you. 

If you believe Candace's endless explanations like the one that you cannot see real Jupiter 

through a telescope but you can see it through naked eyes or through binoculars, well then you 

will just believe anything really. 

Those who themselves are seriously misguided want you to believe anything that they say. They 

may actually tell you not to use your logic and reasoning; not to question, doubt and criticize, but 

just believe, just have faith, just wait a little longer and don't do anything real about anything but 

just keep yourselves deluded by reading or listening to their material that is keeping you confused 

and misguided. 

Who got you into that bullshit? Was it someone you knew? Was it someone you felt you could 

trust? Was that bullshit recommended to you by some friend? 


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7/18/2011 11:05 AM 

The warning against false teachers 

Christ then said, ―Beware of false prophets‖ (Matthew 7:15). For every true prophet calling people 

to the narrow way, are a multiplicity of false prophets calling people to the broad way that leads to 

destruction. Christ’s warning [about false teachers] was not new. Deuteronomy 13:1-5 documents 

the presence of false teaching during the days of Moses. In Isaiah 30:9-14 chronicles its existence 

in the kingdom of Judah. There are many warnings about false teachers in Scripture.1. 2 John 7– 

John said, ―Many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ cometh 

in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.‖ 

Romans 16:17-18–Paul said, “I beseech you, brethren, mark them who cause divisions and 

offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are 


such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ but their own body, and by good words and fair 

speeches deceive the hearts of the innocent.” They are dangerous because they claim to be 

from God and to speak God’s Word. 

Jeremiah 14:14–God said, ―The prophets prophesy lies in my name. I sent them not, neither have 

I commanded them, neither spoke unto them; they prophesy unto you a false vision.‖ 

False teachers are dangerous because their deception is damning. And it comes from that most 

damning deceiver of all, Satan, who disguises himself as an angel of light and his servants 

as ministers of righteousness (2 Cor. 11:13-15). Some false teachers are heretics–those who 

openly reject the Word of God and teach contrary to it. 


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7/18/2011 11:06 AM 

The revelation of false teachers 

In Matthew 7:16 Jesus says, “Ye shall know them by their fruits.” It’s not what they say but 

what you see in their lives that matters. A false teacher cannot produce good fruit because 

evil cannot produce good (v. 17). 

False teachers will produce evil fruit, but they will try to cloak it. Inevitably they hide their bad 

fruit under ecclesiastical garb or isolate it from accountability. People can’t get near enough to 

them to see the reality of their lives. Some of them hide their evil fruit under a holy vocabulary or 

an association with fruitful Christians. Some of them cover their evil fruit with biblical knowledge. 

But they can’t hide it from everyone all the time. If you closely examine a false teacher, you will 

see his evil fruit. 

firmament 

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7/18/2011 11:11 AM 

Candace, 




There never had been peace for God loving people and bringer of Truth, thats why Jesus (ESU) 

got nailed to a piece of wood. 

(Thats why so many of you jump on Candace)And i bet most of the so called "Christians" and 

"Religion- followers" would do it again, matter of fact they are doing it. 

But that is OK. People always fear and therefor fight, what they don't understand. 

I sent lots of Love to all the People on this tread, including you....may the fear of the unknown 

leave you soon, so you all can start to discover GOD open minded and open hearted. 


YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 11:14 AM 

Candace, 











Quoting: firmament 1349900 

posting through proxy 

come on now we know who you are 

YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 11:16 AM 

Candace Frieze has been thankful for the free publicity given her here. Of course she's thankful: 

like any other new age spiritual scammer she wants publicity for herself. That's how she gets 

attention and followers. 


Those scammers prey on vulnerable people who are looking for some answers or who are 

confused in search of any kind of relief. And with any kind of publicity the scammers are sure to hit 

at least some vulnerable targets. It's the same with any advertising, propaganda or thought 

control. Same techniques, same goals, same egotistical mind-set. Buy this! Believe me! Do it 

NOW! It's easy for them to parrot some slogans for their own benefit. 

It is very typical that the scammers don't give you time to think, and they don't give you all the 

necessary information either, so that you could think things thoroughly through. On the contrary, 

you are deliberately being given only the info that they want to give you - and nothing of the 

opposite info. 

It's easy to mix some truth with a lot of garbage – in order to sell you the garbage that you neither 

want nor need in the first place. It's easy for these new age spiritual scammers to use some trigger 

words and spiritual phrases to gain your attention. Those can be easily learned by any ego for its 

own ends: to distract you from what's real and what would be a real benefit for your soul. But 

what's the real deal here? 

Candace Frieze, who's given herself a lot of titles like Mighty Messenger et al, wants to sell you 

her ideas and imaginations. Those include: 

1)Jupiter ignition 

2)Stasis 

3)NESARA 

4)and other similar stuff 

Regarding Jupiter ignition and stasis, those are just lies to distract you from the real truth. 

Candace wants to sell you lies, she wants you to believe those lies, in spite of them lacking any 

evidence, because she needs you to BELIEVE HER BLINDLY. You are not given any real 

evidence, because she needs you to believe what she says, no matter what it is or will be. How 

can we know Jupiter ignition and stasis are lies in fact and reality? Take a look around. See for 

yourself. The "evidence" given to you consists of Candace's and some other spiritual scammers' 

empty claims, some youtube videos based on those claims, and some blind believers insisting on 

believing that stuff as evidence. No need for thinking here! No criticism allowed! Do not present or 

believe any evidence that would undermine Candace's lies! She wants you to believe her lies. And 

that's it. 


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7/18/2011 11:18 AM 

from the heart true words are spoken wisely. 

its a bummer to see everyone still divided. 

GOD has a great plan, hold your FAITH high....... 

GOD BLESS!! 

firmament 

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7/18/2011 11:31 AM 


channelled information that lacks a source is the biggest and most important clue that it is not from 

God. Why would any intelligent and discerning person take data from an unknown source that 

clearly contradicts everything written of God, and find it to be sound, credible and reliable unless 

they are hell-bent on moving AWAY from God? 


Excuse me not trying to be impolite, but who told you that the books you read are made by GOD? 

Do you know anybody personal? Where do you get your knowledge from? 

What unknown source are you talking about? Is GOD an unknown source to you? Why do you 

think so little of yourself? Did the Jesus of your Bible not say that one day men will do just like him 

and even better? Why do you feel you are a lesser child of GOD than maybe a Priest or Preacher 

or the Pope? 

I am really interested... why? Why is everybody so scared to have a talk with GOD MIND to MIND 

and HEART to HEART?? 

firmament 

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7/18/2011 11:34 AM 

Candace, 












posting through proxy 

come on now we know who you are 


That is one of the games some people on GLP are playing with people like me. I got the same IP 

like always. Yes they try hard.... 


Koelbren 

Offer Upgrade 

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7/18/2011 11:36 AM 

The galactic federation of light LOL 

I have another whacked in the head facebook friend who talks about the federation day and night, 

when you ask her how she knows its true she says, "I have been contacted by them", I say 

firmament 

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7/18/2011 11:42 AM 





















2)Stasis 

3)NESARA 












that's it. 


Everybody who knows Candace knows that she does NOT sell anything nor does she force 

anything on anybody. To reveal the TRUTH one has to find out by searching their Inner-self and 

the Mind to find GOD. 

YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 11:57 AM 






















2)Stasis 

3)NESARA 











that's it. 






what? are we talking about the same candace nip? 

she is a salesman selling wolf tickets 

always pushing an agenda is selling things too.... 

we see through the new age lies! 

Snurbs 

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7/18/2011 11:58 AM 









information. 










Likst most books.. Brilliance can be found under any rock.. 

I'm not sure I've really came across anything else other than certain sentences that.. when 

standing outside of the God dogma, are quite nice and well said. 

Religion is the experiencing of divinity in the consciousness of a moral being of evolutionary origin; 

it represents true experience with eternal realities in time, the realization of spiritual satisfactions 

while yet in the flesh. 

Quoting: book of Urantia - True Religion 101:1:1 

From a spiritual standpoint; I actually find that to be quite true. Personally of course. 

Same with this... 

To the circumscribed minds of time-space mortals the universe may present many problems and 

situations which apparently portray disharmony and indicate absence of effective co-ordination; 

but those of us who are able to observe wider stretches of universal phenomena, and who are 

more experienced in this art of detecting the basic unity which underlies creative diversity and of 

discovering the divine oneness which overspreads all this functioning of plurality, better perceive 

the divine and single purpose exhibited in all these manifold manifestations of universal creative 

energy. 

Quoting: Urantia book_Universal Unity 

Stuff like this though.. 

The prince of a newly inhabited world is surrounded by a loyal corps of helpers and assistants and 

by large numbers of the ministering spirits. 

Quoting: 

Makes me.. which makes for an even better read. 

YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 11:58 AM 


Asking critical questions is imperative in any sound education, spiritual or otherwise, but false 

teachers do not allow that. They have a totally different agenda. Their mission is not to teach, they 

don't wish to offer education for other people's benefit. What they want to do is to put themselves 

on a pedestal and make everyone bow to them and obey them and their "mighty messages". Real 

spiritual teachers don't draw attention to themselves, and their personal stuff isn't what's important. 

Contrary to Candace, who's always writing about herself, her doings and experiences, and even 

how she's the one giving information to Ascended Masters – wow! – things that just keep on 

amazing yourstruly again and again.. just how arrogant can this person get? 

Someone who is waiting for the final truth to be revealed via Candace is truly waiting for Godot – 

waiting for nothing, waiting in vain. Nothing worthy regarding your spiritual journey comes from 

that waiting. But how are people sucked into these false prophets, cults and other forms of spiritual 

misguidance? It is not true that only some gullible fools or poor deluded or ignorant people would 

be those suckers who are sucked in cults. Anyone can be trapped, including very intelligent people 

and those who should know better. Cults recruit followers step by step. First they do offer you 

something, something good. That can be some true sounding spiritual message or it can be socalled 

love-bombing. Love bombing has nothing to do with real love, unconditional compassion. 

Love bombing is love and acts of friendship directed for those who are either potential cult recruits 

or those members in that particular cult who behave in manners expected from them, that is they 

obey the cult and its leader. Love, friendship, fellowship, comradeship, all the flowers and flowery 

language are reserved for those potential or actual cultists. Other people don't get any of that 

"love". It's 'us' versus 'them' from the start to finish. 

Once you get in a cult or start reading a lot of cult material and therefore are under cult influence, it 

gets easier for you to be sucked in completely. You may see the leader and other cultists as very 

wise and knowledgeable, you may think they have experienced tremendously spiritual-wise, and 

you just wanna have that too. You want to be as knowledgeable, experienced and wise as they 

seem to be. You wanna have the same certainty, faith, or whatever it is that they say is important. 

What they don't tell you is that they really don't know shit. They don't tell you how imperfect they 

are. They give you the impression of the opposite – but that is just the impression that people in 

general like to give of themselves, nothing more. An outside observer might see the cult and the 

cultists for what they are, and see it immediately, but once you're under the cult influence you're 

no longer an outside observer. What you want is to belong to that group or mission or whatever. 

Cults always say they serve some higher cause. It can be saving the planet, spiritual 

advancement, helping the needy, or whatever that sounds good in your ears. The actual behaviour 

is what's important. But, once you're inside a cult, you stop seeing the actual behaviour. Cult 

followers don't see what's in front of them, they can hardly read and think for themselves any 

more, since they start seeing everything through the cultist eyes and thinking through cult dogma. 

If the leader has enemies, the followers are there to defend the leader. If the leader is "attacked" 

with criticism, the followers are there to offer their consolation to the leader in words of being 

forever faithful for her/him and her/his cause. No individual thinking there! Remember, once you're 

in a cult, they won't allow any of that. Cultists are like puppets who don't see the puppet-master 

pulling the strings. Followers are blind in that respect. 


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Candace, you are sick. Go see a shrink or have some pills. Your delusional posts area clear 

evidences of a disease called schizophrenia... That's your problem. You are sick and does not 

want to admit it! 

Or else am I supposed now to believe you have been to an alien ship so many times but you are 

completely unable to provide evidence of that? Of course you can't. You have been there only in 

you sick delusions. 

As well as everything you say and write. Channeling, statis, Aton/Hatton/ESU/Whatever, Galactic 

Federation, Starfleet, Jupiter Ignition, and now Sun out of place. Come on! All work of a sick mind 

whereas SOLID EVIDENCE has not been provided for any of these! Your claims have been 

debunked, re-debunked and debunked all over again as many times as I can count for. 

Nevertheless you keep filling in this forum with your sick crap. 

You have to stop watching too much Star Trek and reading too much of The Urantia Book. Both 

are very good works but when presented to someone with a twisted mind like yours, can easily 

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He who makes a religion that promises it's followers that someone else will do the work for them, 

won't be able to count his followers. 

Galactic federation, the second coming, all the same shit, people are waiting for a savior as they 

were 2000 years ago. ALl they will get is DOOM. 

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2)Stasis 

3)NESARA 











that's it. 












GOD is NOT NEW AGE neither is Candace. 

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If i may make a silly comparison, the abrahamic religions are like the republican party, new age 

like the democrats and the KOLBRIN is like Ron Paul 

GUANO 

...not your average poo. 

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Yep, it's just another new age psyop 


more hermetic bullshit as if we couldn't get enough. 

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Quoting: Koelbren 

Maybe that is why so few people like the URANTIA book or what Candace is talking about. There 

is NO Savior doing the work for us. WE have to save ourselves this time under the guidance of 

GOD. 


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GOD. 


All you galactic federation freaks do is speak about how the E.t's will save us yada yada, it's the 

same BS with the different package and you know it. 

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7/18/2011 12:19 PM 

"Earth is Earth, take it as you find it, do not expect to find heavenly things there. It is a place of 

tuition and the purpose of life is learning. All things of Earth are limited and mortal, immortality will 

not be found there. When the things of Earth have fulfilled their hidden purposes, each passes 

away, returning to the dust from whence it came". 

Most of you folks should assimilate this instead of look for a fairy tale world to escape from your 

fears. 

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2)Stasis 

3)NESARA 











that's it. 














you just exposed yourself as a liar 

trying to say candace is not new age, is like saying water is not wet 

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7/18/2011 12:33 PM 






Or like trying to say that YAH knows what he's talking about? LOL 

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Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe 

I knew it was only a matter of time until all the new age slime crawled out from under a mushroom 

Hey obe, 

where you been? on space ships? praying in satanic circles? 

YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 12:39 PM 

candace must be upset to send in the new age players 

obe, we are slamming the ub again, not the pj so just go back to sleep 

nothing you want to see or hear here 

dont want your feelings to get hurt again 


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Hey obe, 



YAH, calling Candace & I "New Age", is like calling you a Christian..........neither one is True! :( 

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GOD. 






I am not a galactic whatsoever freak. I like to find out where i am coming from, why i am here and 

how to get in contact with GOD. Because i am fed up with all these false doctrines, which i studied 

very well in my 55 Years. So far i found out one thing and that goes for ALL the so called Christian 

Religions. NOTHING good ever came from them. Still today they got their hands in all kind of evil 

things. But i guess you know that, don't you. I know there are Christians who really try to live Life 

by the teachings of Christ, but that does not make the Religion any better. 

If you read the URANTIA book you will know what i mean. The Truth will allays be the Truth,no 

matter how Men or Religion trying to bent it to fit their own personal needs. You start to discover 

GOD by simply starting to ask WHY. 


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candace must be upset to send in the new age players 

obe, we are slamming the ub again, not the pj so just go back to sleep 

nothing you want to see or hear here 

dont want your feelings to get hurt again 


Yeah, like you'd worry about MY feelings? LOL 

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Hey obe, 



Got any more hate today? 

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GOD. 
















If you want truth I recommend either the Vedas or the Kolbrin, leave the distorted lies of the Jews 

and the fairy tales of new age snake oil merchants. 

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Hey obe, 



YAH, calling Candace & I "New Age", is like calling you a Christian..........neither one is True! :( 


I have a relationship with the Most High God 

call it what you will.... 

You guys have found a book that is sci-fi and about 100 yrs old so i would call your teachings for 

the new age 

space ships and religion really dont go hand in hand do they? 

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Hey obe, 



Got any more hate today? 

Quoting: Snurbs 

inside jokes 

you would not understand 

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GOD. 



















Thank you for your kindness. I did read & study the Vedas, not the Kolbrin. I read the URANTIA 

book four times and it reasons with me, plus i found my connection with God by doing so. I do not 

fall for Jewish lies neither for New Age stuff. I know a lot of crap is being spread. 

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you dont fall for new age stuff but you love urantia 

dont you see the irony in that? 

candace you are trying to hard lady 

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" You shall know them by their fruits " 

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OK, where do you get your "Knowledge" from?? What BOOK?? 


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You guys have found a book that is sci-fi and about 100 yrs old so i would call your teachings for 

the new age 

space ships and religion really dont go hand in hand do they? 


YAH, if you go back a page or two, you will see, that I too; am not a big fan of the UB........but that 

is no reason to assume that your definition of a "new ager" fits all your neatly folded assumptions! 

As far as "space ships & religion", being buddies?(lol)........well, in time, I think they will both have 

to come to terms with each other! :) 

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My knowledge comes from the Spirit of the Most High God 

no book needed 


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Hey obe, 



YAH... 

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, 

against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 

remember who the adversary is... 


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Yeah, I'll believe that; when I see you burn the bible! lol 


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Ephesians 6:12... 

firmament 

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So why are you condemning others who claim that they talk to God also? 

YAHisking 


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Thanks for the reminder 

I have been in this struggle for years, i have delivered a few from the grips of the evil one 

I am here to offer the truth and to expose this new age deception 

YAHisking 


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They do not talk to God 

Its demons they speak too... 

Aliens or whatever they are calling them today 

If they spoke to god it would be evident in their actions 

by their fruits we see they are from their father the devil/dragon 

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bind and loose my brother. bind and loose. 

the most powerful thing you can do are to apply these principles in spiritual warfare.... and pray... 

openly. 

i will agree with you in prayer to squash this darkness and guard hearts 

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose 

on earth will be loosed in heaven. I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in 

heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. For where two or three are 

gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Mark 18:16-20 


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oops 


on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about 

anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three 

are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Mark 18:16-20 

YAHisking 


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bind and loose my brother. bind and loose. 

the most powerful thing you can do are to apply these principles in spiritual warfare.... and pray... 

openly. 

i will agree with you in prayer to squash this darkness and guard hearts 


on earth will be loosed in heaven. I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in 

heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. For where two or three are 

gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Mark 18:16-20 


Hallelu-Yah 

Praise the living God Yahushua/Jesus! 

Thanks for helping lift us up with prayer 

Need more people like you around here, offering spirit knowledge 


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7/18/2011 1:55 PM 

Jesus said that His children know his voice. If there are people who cannot hear it... then God 

must intervene. There is nothing we can do but continue as prayer warriors in the face of this 

battle. 


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7/18/2011 2:04 PM 

Latest score... 

URANTIA BOOK - 0 

BIBLE - 0 

TRUTH (not involved in this match) 


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You can add yourself to the heathens also ...same thing different cover 


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7/18/2011 2:15 PM 

Urantia Book is an interesting read that is supportive of Christianity. 


So is the Book of Mormon... 

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that 

which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than 

that ye have received, let him be accursed. 


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LOL.......... 

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They do not talk to God 

Its demons they speak too... 

Aliens or whatever they are calling them today 

If they spoke to god it would be evident in their actions 

by their fruits we see they are from their father the devil/dragon 


You claim you get your knowledge from God and we supposed to believe you without proof OK ( i 

haven't seen any of your fruits), but at the same time you, without proof, say Candace and alike 

are talking to Demons?? Can you hear yourself talking?? 

Truth can not be forced on people, Truth has to be discovered. You say your word is the Truth, 

how do i know? 

If your manners are the teachings of your God then i do not want to be a part of it. Anyway i let you 

be and i respect the GOD given Soul that you are, knowing one day we all will find out...right. 


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information. 

















Wrong, 

This is channeled book, no prophecy, no prophets 

just a space alien love story 

sci-fi mixed with satans lies 

this book only fools the heathen 

I pray deceivers like cadance would just get a clue 


YAH your SHILLING IS SO OBVIOUS this morning. I am taking leave of this thread unless 

someone who is real posts honestly here. I am not dealing with you shills anymore. YAH is here to 


finish destroying the thread. How do I know, because she has done it before, and also because 

she communicated by PM with me before and let me know the agenda. So GOOD BYE, hope 

those of you who are sincere enjoyed the material and have bookmarked it if necessary. I will not 

deal further with shills, because of their purpose of being shills. Yah came to GLP at the same 

time frame several others did, to destroy God's work, so be it. It was when we announced that 

many from above would be walking the planet, and they are here still, but the thugs got really 

worried back then and lashed out big time, so we went quiet to their appearances for a time. We 

are still be quiet, dear thugs and shills. 

Obviously YAH has NOT read those 2000+ pages. The post screams of that. I hope you real and 

sincere readers are not put off by it, because that is what the shills here are trying to do, to keep 

sheeples in line. Heaven forbid they find their godhood within them. YAH and TXGal would prefer 

you ones never come to know the power of the FAther Fragment and your own mind within you. 

They would prefer you continue to manufacture demons, which I explained above. These are 

nothing more than thought forms. Demons are not entities. They are more like a computer virus. 

They are created by the imagination and then used in black magic to bother other people. These 

ones who are shilling want you in fact to get so angry with me, that you will create demons 

directed at me. I brush them off readily when I sense it. You ones are dark, not of the light. This 

thread is full of witchcraft in that sense, the shill posts. They know how to play the game. Its not 

just words, their actions speak. 


You are the shill Candace. An evil and vile vessel. You pollute threads that you KNOW you cannot 

be banned from. Is Jupiter still on fire Candace? Not only are you evil, but you are also quite 

insane. 


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What is the difference between angels contacting prophets and spirit beings contacting people to 

write the book of Urantia? 

No fucking difference! 

Jews and Christians honestly can't judge the Urantia book. Look in the mirror. 


The difference is that Angels can appear in a body. But the spirits of the Nephilim no longer have 

bodies, so they find hosts like Candace and whisper sweet lies that are pleasing to her ears. 


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Bring it! 











tool. 











All you need to know about Candace; 

There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. 

Quoting: Candace the damned screeches: 

firmament 

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What is the difference between angels contacting prophets and spirit beings contacting people to 

write the book of Urantia? 

No fucking difference! 


Jews and Christians honestly can't judge the Urantia book. Look in the mirror. 


The difference is that Angels can appear in a body. But the spirits of the Nephilim no longer have 

bodies, so they find hosts like Candace and whisper sweet lies that are pleasing to her ears. 


How do you know? Have you met any of them? How do you know about the "Nephilim" and them 

hanging around Candace?? 


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BIBLE - 0 



You can add yourself to the heathens also ...same thing different cover 


I am a heathen because I don't fall for either side? 

I'll risk it. 


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7/18/2011 3:00 PM 

John 16 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not 

speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 

[link to openarmsassembly.com] 


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How come people who got "stoned to death" in the days of old, didn't pick up any rocks and throw 

back at them? 

Maybe could have took 1 or 2 of them with him??? :( 

firmament 

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Bring it! 











tool. 












All you need to know about Candace; 

There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. 

Quoting: Candace the damned screeches: 


"There is no special Day for God. Forget your Sabbath Days. 

Every day is GODS day." 

This is what she said!!! 

If you say something it should be the truth, should it not? 

firmament 

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back at them? 



That was a good one 


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i think pretending to be somebody else is another form of deception. 

googooflexy 

uuuuh.... 

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A bunch of people arguing whether their book (written by someone who hears voices) is true or if 

the Christians' book (re-translated until incomprehensible from the original) is indeed the one that's 

true. 

I think what's really going on with the universe is much more important that what you douchebags 

are talking about... 

googooflexy 

uuuuh.... 

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7/18/2011 3:16 PM 


back at them? 



That was a good one 


Stoning in biblical times was less of throwing small rocks and more of dropping giant stones onto 

heads and chests. Imagine more of a cinderblock type stone. 

...besides the point of the thread I suppose. 

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i think pretending to be somebody else is another form of deception. 


This is me 

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why some people play games with me i do not know neither do i care!! I have nothing to hide. Why 

i show up as proxy?? Ask the ones who got time enough to think of some stupid sh.. like that. 


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so then you follow candace around and specifically remember small snippets and quotes from 

random threads? 

yeah right... 

whatever. 

firmament 

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yeah right... 

whatever. 



No i don't. I follow GOD. But if you talk about someone and quoting people why cant you do so 

with the exact words? Why ad or leave stuff out to make it look like something else? 

What is wrong with you people? 

Does it always have to be unfair and full of lies?? 

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stopping in the send the LOVE and love can change your,and everyone around you lives.As I 

have noticed a increaase in my qaulity of life,as I have began tou love all,as for the book of 

Urantia,I find it most interesting.educational and spiritual.I also find it attracts much attention 

indeed. 

LOVE ALL 

peace 

antikythera 

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true. 



Quoting: googooflexy 

Stephen Kings Dark Tower series is the true word of God. 

All praise Stephen. 

My 

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stopping in the send the LOVE and love can change your,and everyone around you lives.As I 

have noticed a increaase in my qaulity of life,as I have began tou love all,as for the book of 

Urantia,I find it most interesting.educational and spiritual.I also find it attracts much attention 

indeed. 

LOVE ALL 

peace 

Quoting: riderr 

Aussie Nurse 

it only stings a little bit 

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the white rose 

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To All,To All, Death, what seems to be unfair is just your finite understanding of the infinite.The 

one known to you as Jesus told us to seek the truth and the truth will set you free,by seeking you 

earn salvation.Here are some truths I have found by my seeking. Will which is the ability to choose 

to do a thing is the most important force in the Universe of Universes.When The First Source and 

center,The Father,The Thought and The Second Source and center,The Son,The Word have an 

individual collaboration and actualization of WILL,There Freewill,a co-creative creation comes into 

being.Will alone creates Spirit Sons, Paradise Creator Sons of the order of Michael,our Local 

Universe Son is Michael of Nebadon who Incarnated as Esu Immanuel known to most as Jesus.In 

order allow us to use our soul/mind (HUE MAN =LIGHT MAN)being to overcome the 

adversary,which is our ego entity of material self-hood,and achieve a Spiritual birthing without the 

benefit of physical evidence.This being able to have the wholehearted faith and trust of "a little 

child"in your unseen Spiritual Father.Until AT ONE MENT of Will of the ascending HUE MAN the 

soul is a seed that needs to be planted in the soil of desire to know your Heavenly Father,when 

the individual's soul/mind overcomes ego of self and attains AT ONE MENT of WILL and becomes 

one with the indwelling Father Fragment that being realizes its IMMORTALITY.Esu 

Immanuel(JESUS) left nothing behind of Himself to allow us the privilege of becoming 

"AGONDONTERS"( ones who can attain without proof of seeing),to be an agondonter is a most 

cherished and wonderful achievement!Esu Immanul(JESUS)left nothing behind (no writings,no 

art,no relic of any kind)for another reason,He did not want there to be anything left to start a 

religion or cult around His Person rather than His teachings. Saul of Tarsus A.K.A. Paul a pharisee 

composed the new testament ( hijacking the early followers of Esu's teachings)and turned the 

movement right back into the blood cult of the HEBREW RABBIS using the MURDERED Esu 

Immanuel(JESUS)as the SACRIFICE! I do however now have proof!I know by personal 

experience that paragraph 4 on page 1229 of "THE URANTIA BOOK" is the absolute, undeniable 

TRUTH and if that is TRUTH then the whole book is the TRUTH! Here is what I experienced. On 

June 28,1984 while working in my small plant nursery pulling weeds,I was attacked by a swarm of 

very tiny mosquitoes. They were the size of gnats and did not cause itchy bites,so I kept 

working.Went to bed and woke up the next morning so sick I could not move I was immobilized.I 

did not leave my bed for seven days and nights,did not eat or drink or go to toilet.Fever so bad 

covers on one minute off the next for seven days.Then on July 5, 1984 a few minutes before 

midnight I mustered up enough strength to get to the bathroom and take my temperature.I saw 

myself in mirror for first time in a week.I looked like DEATH WARMED OVER!My temperature was 

104.5,I looked in the mirror then I looked at the thermometer then back in the mirror and then 

realized I was close to death.I said to myself well I guess this is it I am heading into the 

UNKNOWN!I laughed at the face of death!I got back into bed and thought what if my next breath is 

my last.It was, I had this thought,this prayer if you will that It is my WILL that THY WILL be done 

MY FATHER(a positive affirmation of WILL)^This is the "AT ONE MENT OF WILL wholehearted 

faith and trust in the unseen,the trust of a little child. At this moment time stood still,I turned to my 

right and said to my wife Laurie I am dieing I love you good bye.I then turned to my left and saw 

my clock tick to midnight,at this moment of non-time I felt myself vacate my body,it started at the 

tips of my toes and whooshed up my body when it reached my heart and brain I departed through 

the top of my head. Now all matter has faded away and I find myself as a little tiny light all alone in 

the darkness until I saw coming up from my right and from what seemed to be BELOW another 

light and it approached me and came to my side. I looked up and I saw another light a much much 

more brilliant and powerful light being on the other side of the portal,I knew that was my 

CREATOR FATHER and as I tried to reach for His helping hand the other being of light put up this 

barrier between us it was everything I ever did that hurt someone my sins if you will.I looked and 

saw my CREATOR FATHER still reaching for me even with all the error and s.i.n.(stuck in 

negativity)I committed.I turned to the being who came up from below and said be gone I go with 

my Heavenly Father and with that the EVIL PRINCE OF DARKNESS departed back to the pit of 


DARKNESS he left screaming in defeat ! I then took part in a seven hour debate with my 

CREATOR over going directly to heaven with Him. He said what of your wife and children,I said 

they will be all right because they have You.He said what of your business and all your projects 

and art,I said they mean nothing now that I am in your presents.Then My CREATOR said because 

you were able to have the faith and trust of a little child and achieve AT ONE MENT OF WILL and 

give birth to your seed soul I want you to go back into the Firmament back to the density of matter 

and tell them ALL,so I had to relent.It was His plan that I come back and tell you all!I awoke with 

my head still looking at the clock as it turned to seven. The Creator Son,Paradise Son The 

MICHAEL OF NEBADON and His bestowal personification in incarnation ESU IMMANUEL are 

REAL and always here for all who so choose of your own FREEWILL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fear is the opposite 

of Faith HAVE NO FEAR LEARN THE TRUTH BY SEEKING AND HELP YOUR FELLOWS BY 

PASSING IT ON FREELY [link to www.urantia.org] THE BODY NEITHER LIVES NOR DIES THE 

SOUL/MIND HUE MAN LIGHT MAN LIVES AND IS IMMORTAL,THE LIGHT BODY OF THE 

DENSITY SIMULATES LIFE!!!the following is from the "Book of Truth"spoken of by Daniel "THE 

URANTIA BOOK" The material self, the ego-entity of human identity, is dependent during the 

physical life on the continuing function of the material life vehicle, on the continued existence of 

the unbalanced equilibrium of energies and intellect which, on Urantia, has been given the name 

life. But selfhood of survival value, selfhood that can transcend the experience of death, is only 

evolved by establishing a potential transfer of the seat of the identity of the evolving personality 

from the transient life vehicle — the material body — to the more enduring and immortal nature of 

the morontia soul and on beyond to those levels whereon the soul becomes infused with, and 

eventually attains the status of, spirit reality. This actual transfer from material association to 

morontia identification is effected by the sincerity, persistence, and steadfastness of the Godseeking 

decisions of the human creature. 

3. The Phenomenon of Death 

(1229.8) 112:3.1 Urantians generally recognize only one kind of death, the physical cessation of 

life energies; but concerning personality survival there are really three kinds: 

(1229.9) 112:3.2 1. Spiritual (soul) death. If and when mortal man has finally rejected survival, 

when he has been pronounced spiritually insolvent, morontially bankrupt, in the conjoint opinion of 

the Adjuster and the surviving seraphim, when such co-ordinate advice has been recorded on 

Uversa, and after the Censors and their reflective associates have verified these findings, 

thereupon do the rulers of Orvonton order the immediate release of the indwelling Monitor. But this 

release of the Adjuster in no way affects the duties of the personal or group seraphim concerned 

with that Adjuster-abandoned individual. This kind of death is final in its significance irrespective of 

the temporary continuation of the living energies of the physical and mind mechanisms. From the 

cosmic standpoint the mortal is already dead; the continuing life merely indicates the persistence 

of the material momentum of cosmic energies. 

(1230.1) 112:3.3 2. Intellectual (mind) death. When the vital circuits of higher adjutant ministry are 

disrupted through the aberrations of intellect or because of the partial destruction of the 

mechanism of the brain, and if these conditions pass a certain critical point of irreparability, the 

indwelling Adjuster is immediately released to depart for Divinington. On the universe records a 

mortal personality is considered to have met with death whenever the essential mind circuits of 

human will-action have been destroyed. And again, this is death, irrespective of the continuing 

function of the living mechanism of the physical body. The body minus the volitional mind is no 

longer human, but according to the prior choosing of the human will, the soul of such an individual 

may survive. 

(1230.2) 112:3.4 3. Physical (body and mind) death. When death overtakes a human being, the 

Adjuster remains in the citadel of the mind until it ceases to function as an intelligent mechanism, 


about the time that the measurable brain energies cease their rhythmic vital pulsations. Following 

this dissolution the Adjuster takes leave of the vanishing mind, just as unceremoniously as entry 

was made years before, and proceeds to Divinington by way of Uversa. 

(1230.3) 112:3.5 After death the material body returns to the elemental world from which it was 

derived, but two nonmaterial factors of surviving personality persist: The pre-existent Thought 

Adjuster, with the memory transcription of the mortal career, proceeds to Divinington; and there 

also remains, in the custody of the destiny guardian, the immortal morontia soul of the deceased 

human. These phases and forms of soul, these once kinetic but now static formulas of identity, are 

essential to repersonalization on the morontia worlds; and it is the reunion of the Adjuster and the 

soul that reassembles the surviving personality, that reconsciousizes you at the time of the 

morontia awakening. 

(1230.4) 112:3.6 For those who do not have personal seraphic guardians, the group custodians 

faithfully and efficiently perform the same service of identity safekeeping and personality 

resurrection. The seraphim are indispensable to the reassembly of personality. 

(1230.5) 112:3.7 Upon death the Thought Adjuster temporarily loses personality, but not identity; 

the human subject temporarily loses identity, but not personality; on the mansion worlds both 

reunite in eternal manifestation. Never does a departed Thought Adjuster return to earth as the 

being of former indwelling; never is personality manifested without the human will; and never does 

a dis-Adjustered human being after death manifest active identity or in any manner establish 

communication with the living beings of earth. Such dis-Adjustered souls are wholly and absolutely 

unconscious during the long or short sleep of death. There can be no exhibition of any sort of 

personality or ability to engage in communications with other personalities until after completion of 

survival. Those who go to the mansion worlds are not permitted to send messages back to their 

loved ones. It is the policy throughout the universes to forbid such communication during the 

period of a current dispensation. [link to www.urantia.org] the white rose 



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7/18/2011 8:18 PM 



yeah right... 

whatever. 








I want to make it clear here, I DO NOT HAVE FOLLOWERS. If there are any, this is their problem, 

because that I do not seek whatsover. this organization I head with Michael of Nebadon and Esu, 

is composed of DOERS, of co creators , a team that will be the chief advisory staff from "heaven" 

for the rebuilding of this world. Nothing more, nothing less. I am NOT a "guru" or any such. I seek 

no followers. Man must realize he is a fragment of God and step into his holy shoes. The dark 

ones have prevented this concept as much as they can do so. The very God the FAther you go to, 

in your prayers is right inside your mind/soul, as your Father Fragment. 

And it is right, every minute of every day is HOLY and God's Day. There is no special day of God 

whatsoever. And the teaching others may be quoting, other than my personal comment in my 

signature file is this and I did not write the piece. Put on your mind and you common sense 

because nature does not ever take a day off for rest. however, all of nature needs short periods of 

rest, which is why the birds sleep a few hours at night, before they begin their morning chirping. 

God's laws are common sense, completely. It is shame man has to be reminded of them over and 

over and over and over and over and over and so on and so forth. As promised they were regiven, 

yet again, before the end of the age. HERE: [link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] Download the file, it's 

free, God does not charge for teaching. These were all given at the time of Moses and some of the 

tablets were broken and lost. 

5. REMEMBER GOD'S "DAY" AND KEEP IT HOLY. 

Now within the "so-called" Christian Bible, this law has been interpreted as "A" day and the day 

that was chosen by HUMANS was the one called SUNDAY and also called "The Sabbath". This 

was the day which HUMANS said that NO work could be done and you must go to THEIR Church 

and pray, repent and give thanks because this was God's day. We must tell you this is not correct 

because ALL days in the Kingdom of God and The Creation are HIS. This means you must keep 

ALL of your Days HOLY in reverence to THE DIVINE HOLY ONE PRESENCE OF GOD WITHIN 

ALL OF THE CREATION. EVERY day you must, as a part of your prayer, acknowledge and give 

thanks and HONOR unto God and The Creation for ALL the blessings of abundance, Wisdom and 

LIFE which THE FATHER WITHIN YOU has bestowed upon you. Remember this about the true 

purpose and POWER of Prayer and Meditation. PRAYER is Asking for guidance from the Father 

within for WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN IN HIS SERVICE, "AND IN ALL 

THINGS, FATHER, NOT MY WILL, BUT THINE WILL BE DONE." MEDITATION then is 

RECEIVING that information from the Father within to sustain in HIS service. Eventually, YOU will 

ALL be in a constant state of meditation and commu nion (mutual participation or sharing) with the 

Divine Father within. 

Now, Sunday has also been called God's day of rest. This is not logical. What about the farmer 

who has animals and his fields to tend? This is not to say that you cannot rest. But your rest may 

be on a Monday or a Wednesday or maybe just an hour or two each day. It will be different for 

every human depending on the conditions of his service to God. WHEN the cycle of time comes 

when all is returned to the ONE of THE CRE ATION, there is a period of what might be termed as 

"rest". This means that life as you know it in this illusion will cease to exist. It is one of the Great 

Mysteries which measures in cycles the ebb and flow of THE ONE DIVINE SOURCE OF ALL 


THAT IS. Until that time, GOD within you will guide you as to when the necessary times of rest are 

for you. 

riderr 

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7/18/2011 8:39 PM 



true. 




kinda true outside your choice or words.at my freq,.Your words seem strange 



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7/18/2011 8:44 PM 



true. 







The UB was not written by someone "hearing voices." It was written THRU a sleeping prophet, 

who trained himself to leave his body, so the various hosts of heaven could make use of it to 

provide the material. Same happened with Edgar Cayce, and thru Dolores Cannons clients, 

except she helps them into the hypnosis and both higher selves and other beings come thru, and 

she had the advanatage of a tape recorder now to record it. Imagine all that shorthand the 

transcriber of the UB had to write to produce 2000 pages of work. Perhaps most of you don't 

remember "shorthand", too young maybe? 


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7/18/2011 8:47 PM 



yeah right... 

whatever. 


























Now within the "so-called" Christian Bible, this law has been interpreted as "A" day and the 

day that was chosen by HUMANS was the one called SUNDAY and also called "The 

Sabbath". This was the day which HUMANS said that NO work could be done and you must go to 

THEIR Church and pray, repent and give thanks because this was God's day. We must tell you 

this is not correct because ALL days in the Kingdom of God and The Creation are HIS. This 

means you must keep ALL of your Days HOLY in reverence to THE DIVINE HOLY ONE 

PRESENCE OF GOD WITHIN ALL OF THE CREATION. EVERY day you must, as a part of your 

prayer, acknowledge and give thanks and HONOR unto God and The Creation for ALL the 

blessings of abundance, Wisdom and LIFE which THE FATHER WITHIN YOU has bestowed 

upon you. Remember this about the true purpose and POWER of Prayer and Meditation. 

PRAYER is Asking for guidance from the Father within for WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IN 

ORDER TO SUSTAIN IN HIS SERVICE, "AND IN ALL THINGS, FATHER, NOT MY WILL, BUT 

THINE WILL BE DONE." MEDITATION then is RECEIVING that information from the Father within 

to sustain in HIS service. Eventually, YOU will ALL be in a constant state of meditation and 

commu nion (mutual participation or sharing) with the Divine Father within. 









for you. 


The Sabbath is saturday...get it right 


User ID: 1335901 

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7/18/2011 8:48 PM 



true. 







The UB was not written by someone "hearing voices." It was written THRU a sleeping 

prophet, who trained himself to leave his body, so the various hosts of heaven could make 

use of it to provide the material. Same happened with Edgar Cayce, and thru Dolores Cannons 

clients, except she helps them into the hypnosis and both higher selves and other beings come 

thru, and she had the advanatage of a tape recorder now to record it. Imagine all that shorthand 

the transcriber of the UB had to write to produce 2000 pages of work. Perhaps most of you don't 

remember "shorthand", too young maybe? 


You are ripe for the pickings by the New World Order 

hey nobody 

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7/18/2011 8:50 PM 

I've been studying since 1991... I could care less what they say... 

we know the truth don't we... 

TrumpetBlast 

Letters from God and His Christ 

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7/18/2011 8:57 PM 

The Urantia Book is blasphemous new age deception sent by demon possessed man and carried 

on by men, false teachers, who were seduced by it and have no issue with heresy and blasphemy. 

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, 

and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it 

were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." 

(Matthew 24:24) 

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound 

doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to 

themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3) 


"...because they received not the love of the truth, that 

they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them 

strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" 

(2 Thessalonians 2:10b-11) 


Exactly 

Amen to the word of the Lord. 

Quoting: TrumpetBlast 

this spamming toad banned me and has a list of about 30 foes 

lol 

you mad or sumthin' 

Quoting: Aussie Nurse 

Let All in the Earth Partake of My Word, and Be Brought Into Deep and Profound Silence. 

And Let the Obstinate Stay Silent, Let Him Open Not His Mouth to Speak... Let Him Be Quiet 

and Consider, Says the Lord. 

4/24/08 From God the Father and Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - 

A Letter Given to Timothy, For Timothy, and For All Those Who Blow the Trumpet 

[God the Father:] Timothy, lift up your pen, and write these words I speak to you this day, and give 

them to My servants who blow this trumpet I have placed in your hand. 

Thus says the Lord of Glory: 

I shall not share My glory. Neither shall any, who speak against Me, be given a voice. Neither shall 

any, who mock My name and My voice, be given any voice at all... 

For the Day is at hand, when they shall be struck dumb, 

and crumble in fear for those things coming upon the earth. 

Therefore, My Word stands, and shall not be moved. Whether they will hear or forebear, it shall 

stand, even to the slaying of their hearts... this is but the beginning. Soon, all shall be brought to 

fruition, soon shall all be brought forth... it shall be completed, it shall surely come to pass... it shall 

be done. Therefore, let those, who do wickedly, continue therein; and let those, who do and seek 

righteousness, continue to walk therein. 

Yet I tell you this, My servants: When it is within your power to silence the scoffers, do so... give no 

voice to the wicked. For to do so is to enable satan. Know you not what the Scriptures say?.... If 

anyone comes and does not hold to this teaching, do not invite him in. Neither give them place, 

nor part, in that set forth for the Lord and His proclamation. This would be to give him platform to 

perpetuate his evil ways, which is to enter into partnership with him. To allow their comments is to 

welcome them in. 

Let them shout to the Lord their controversy, 


let their outcry enter into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth... 

He shall repay, He shall surely give a punishment and a harsh correction. 

And if they choose to stand until the end, beating their chests, shaking their fists toward Heaven, 

even with a stretched-out arm and a stiff neck, I will destroy them... they will be consumed and 

blotted out, says the Holy One of Israel. For the Word of God is quick and powerful, sharper than 

any two-edged sword, even to the dividing of flesh and sinew, even to the destruction of both soul 

and body. For all creation was brought forth of the Word... and by His Word and with My word, it 

shall be finished, it shall be completed. 

Yet you ask, „What of those in agreement and those who are not against you, Lord? Even all on 

our part?‟ I say to you, what of yourselves? For whose glory do you write? Is My Word in need of 

supports to prop it up?... 

Let all behold My Word. 

Let them look upon it as an ensign and waving banner, 

brought forth, even as it were, a trumpet, blown continually upon the wall. 

Let its sound rush through the streets of the cities. 

Let its noise be carried into the wilderness, even to the outermost isles. 

And let those, who have ears to hear, listen, and be silent before their God, and pray... 

even to the taking up of a quiet lamentation, the putting on of sackcloth and ashes, 

even to the great wailing and many tears, over that which I am about to do and bring upon the 

earth, 

and even because of that brought forth already. 

Let all the world be put under My feet. 

Let all things be put into subjection to the Son, your King, the Holy One! 

Let all, in the Earth, partake of My Word, and be brought into deep and profound silence. 

[Jesus, Our Lord and Savior:] For what can one add to, or take away from, the Word of the Most 

High? Let My beloved say, “Amen” ... Even, “Amen and amen. Your will be done, oh Lord”. 

And to the rest, let them flee and hide themselves from He who sits on His throne. Let them scurry 

about, neighing as they go. Let them speak against you by the walls, both open and in secret. For 

what is it to you, My servants? For against whom do they speak? Whose voice is it they 

withstand?... Your own?! Rather, count it all joy, that you have suffered scorn on My account, for 

likewise have their fathers done to all My servants, the prophets, throughout the generations... 

I am the Lord!... Vengeance is Mine! I shall repay! 

Servants, trust and obey. How can one blow any trumpet while talking? How can one behold My 

form, when caught up in all these perverse disputings of the heart and mind, soon brought forth in 

speech, leading into more ungodliness? Give the adversary no occasion to speak, when it is within 

your power to do so... you are My body. Neither give the wicked man and the scoffer any voice at 

all, when you are able, for in this you have blessed him in the shutting of his mouth. For a man is 

defiled, by what is brought forth from the heart and given voice by his mouth. And those sins, not 

covered by the Lamb, shall be weighed in the balances. 

Beloved, give nothing to them... honor Me. Let them eat silence and abide in the same, until, per 

chance, they turn from their turmoil and repent, in where I shall free them. Beloved, pray for your 


adversaries. For they fight not against you, they contend with Me... they have hated Me first. And if 

they hate Me, they will hate My body also, of which you are. And how much more shall they reject 

and persecute My mouthpiece, even of all these who are sent and speak for Me? 

Therefore, beloved servants, trust and obey. 

Run not ahead, nor lag behind... 

take My hand, going only where I lead you, and do only as I command you... 

I am the Lord... even I have bought you. 

I am the One who has loved you from the beginning, 

who remains with you until the end, and even forever after. 

I am He who stays, and I am also He who shall let.... 

Trust in Me. 

More and free: 

[link to trumpetcallofgod.com] 

Or search under google for the online version with the latest Letters: 




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7/18/2011 9:00 PM 

The Lord holds no vengeance. Nature however does. And she is going to reclaim herself. Thanks 

for banning me from your threads, now I won't waste time there. Not that I do anyway, these are 

terrible pieces and Jesus is nowhere to be found in them. The Father holds no vengeance, the 

creation is only created out of love. These sort of pieces placed on the planet breed hate. 

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iderr 

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7/18/2011 9:04 PM 

Love post are true.This I know.Post with insults negitivty are not of this freq 

riderr 

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7/18/2011 9:05 PM 

The Lord holds no vengeance. Nature however does. And she is going to reclaim herself. Thanks 

for banning me from your threads, now I won't waste time there. Not that I do anyway, these are 

terrible pieces and Jesus is nowhere to be found in them. 



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7/18/2011 9:11 PM 

THE HOLY SCRIPTURES --- 

1440 - 1400 B.C. 

Genesis #1 

Exodus #2 

Leviticus #3 

Numbers #4 

Deuteronomy #5 


1400 - 1000 

Joshua #6 

Judges #7 

1000 - 586 B.C. (pre-exile - mid-exile) 

Period of David and Solomon (ca. 1000 - 931): 

Psalms #19 

Ruth #8 

1st Samuel #9 

2nd Samuel #10 

Job #18 

Proverbs #20 

Ecclesiastes #21 

Song of Solomon #22 

Period of Rehoboam to Hezekiah (931 - 686): 

Isaiah #23 

Hosea #28 

Joel #29 

Amos #30 

Obadiah #31 

Jonah #32 

Micah #33 

Period of Hezekiah to the exile (686 - 586): 

Nahum #34 

Habakkuk #35 

Zephaniah #36 

1st Kings #11 

2nd Kings #12 

1st Chronicles #13 

2nd Chronicles #14 

Jeremiah #24 

Lamentations #25 

Ezekiel #26 

Daniel #27 

516 - 400 B.C. (post-exilic) 

Ezra #15 

Nehemiah #16 

Esther #17 


Haggai #37 

Zechariah #38 

Malachi #39 

New Testament (n.b., this is a "higher chronology" than you will find elsewhere = dates are earlier; 

numbers in bold represent the traditional New Testament English order; parenthetical bold 

numbers are the traditional order in the Bible overall): 

40 - 45. A.D. 

Matthew: #1 (#40 ) 

45 - 50 A.D. 

1st Thessalonians #13 (#52) 

2nd Thessalonians #14 (#53) 

1 Corinthians #7 (#46) 

2 Corinthians #8 (#47) 

Romans #6 (#45) 

Luke #3 (#42) 

50 - 55 A.D. 

Galatians #9 (#48) 

Ephesians #10 (#49) 

Philippians #11 (#50) 

Colossians #12 (#51) 

Philemon #18 (#57) 

Acts #5 (#44) 

1st Timothy #15 (#54) 

2nd Timothy #16 (#55) 

Titus #17 (#56) 

Hebrews #19 (#58) 

55 - 60 A.D. 

1st Peter #21 (#60) 

2nd Peter #22 (#61) 

Mark #2 (#41) 

James #20 (#59) 

Jude #26 (#65) 

60 - 68 A.D. 

John #4 (#43) 

1st John #23 (#62) 


2nd John #24 (#63) 

3rd John #25 (#64) 

Revelation #27 (#66) 

THE URANTIA BOOK --- 

The Urantia Book (sometimes called the Urantia Papers or The Fifth Epochal Revelation) is a 

spiritual and philosophical book that discusses God, Jesus, science, cosmology, religion, history, 

and destiny.[1] It originated in Chicago, Illinois sometime between 1924 and 1955. Its authorship 

remains a matter of speculation. 

UB is not even 60 years old...ROFLS . It was written right about the same time LSD and Acid was 

becoming popular.ROFLS 

YAHisking 


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7/18/2011 9:23 PM 



yeah right... 

whatever. 

















































for you. 


you are such an idiot! 

this reminds me of why i must constantly expose your lies 

your delusions are getting worse crazy lady 

the sabbath was NEVER sunday, do your history and you will learn that Constantine changed the 

day of worship to sunday when the formed the catholic church 

you act so enlightened, except there is no logic in your understanding of the simple truths 


you have no backing on anything you spew 

your only hope on this board is the constant stream of novices to try to play your mind control 

games on 

GUANO 


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7/18/2011 9:24 PM 

'the LORD' holds no vengeance... Which 'lord' is this? 

Any 'lord'-type in any mythos most certainly obtains justice; vengeance is a byproduct of perceived 

justice. 

Righteousness = Justice 

riderr 

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7/18/2011 9:26 PM 



yeah right... 

whatever. 

















































for you. 











games on 


WHY SO much negiyive 



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7/18/2011 11:16 PM 



justice. 


Quoting: GUANO 

the Universes are managed, and there are COURTS. This planet has been outside of those courts 

because of the Lucifer Rebellion, a whole bunch of folks left the union. And Gods of vengeance 

have been the war type owners of this planet, and its going back under heaven management. 

There have been because of the galactic wars some very bossy orions and others over this planet 

that did take out vengeance but that is no longer the case. There are still some folks who abuse 

thru the law on this planet, but as we rebuild, justice will become honest justice. 


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7/18/2011 11:18 PM 


So, put it aside and look for other books that seem more logical... 

Why do you need a whole forum to approve of your reading material? 

ScrumpTheTexan 

-Controverter- 

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United States 

7/18/2011 11:27 PM 

on 'The Book of Urantia'... 

And every 'New Age' LIE. 


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Spain 

7/18/2011 11:30 PM 

For xtians anything not in the bible is of the devil so i dont even know why you care to argue, you 

should remain in your private forums quoting deuteronomy and repeating the mantra "repent, the 

end is nigh!" 

What use is it to argue with others if your mentality is already set on stone? 



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United States 

7/19/2011 12:01 AM 




yeah right... 

whatever. 

















































for you. 










games on 


yah, I have no research to do on what day its on, because it is not a rule of god for a balanced 

society. Every day is HOLY and NO true "God" would ever demand a day of worship to himself 

and force one to also tithe. It's an employment scheme and a money making scheme. So what 

would I research. You are implying in your response to my post above that I said Sunday was the 

sabbath. I did not. 

Now, back in those days when there was not global communication, how many calendars and 

days to a week existed in different cultures all over the earth? Did the Hebrews et all of those time 

in that region of the world, have a week of 7 days? I don't know. It's would be pretty easy to have 5 

day weeks too. Did those people name their days the same as the days are named on our global 

calendar now? There are still people on this earth, where counting weeks and months is not even 

relevant to them. And why a "week" in the first place and why 30 days some months and 31 others 

and 28 for another? Most people went by moons etc harvests, seasons. 

And that would include me. I could care less what "day" man has named it or what week. I 

respond more to seasons and weather than the names of the day man has created. I pay attention 

to a calendar only because I have to pay bills by various certain days or I wouldn't pay any 

attention at all. There is a point in this in a modern world. I am planning a get together and I will 

have to supply dates and times. but past that stuff, who cares? Most of my working years I worked 

weekends and I was a nurse for a very long time and people don't take the sabbath off when they 


are ill. Nor do their families come into the hospital to care for them so the hospital staff can have a 

sabbath day off. 

WHO CARES!!! IT"S DOESN"T MATTER. every day is holy. I suspect the Russians and the 

Chinese and the American Indians, the asians et all, 2000 years or more ago did not share the 

same calendars. In fact those in the western hemisphere apparenlty hd little or no conact with 

others in the world. 

A global system ahs become necessary now that there are global communications, but otherwise, 

WHO CARES. What days did the Hebrews of those time choose as the sabbath, well my guess is, 

it's hard to figure out. They didn't even get the year right for the Birthday of Christ. Based on the 

calendars of times, only those in heaven could determine such for our modern calendar vs the 

calendars of that time. I bet the calendar was different for every tribe around thousands of years 

ago and some didn't keep calendars at all. 

So based on all of that, how can YOU and others who argue this silly silly topic, have any idea at 

all? Just like Tx Gal admits to going straight to the Lord, but somehow mentally isn't how it's done? 

That is why I made the statement the Lord doesn't use an email system. it is done mentally, 

period. 

The Hebrews apparently did have a calendar system. But its not the same system we are on now. 

I don't know what the days of the week were named and if they used weeks or a similar concept at 

all. I have no idea and I am not interested in researching it, because its not relevant to me right 

now. I have no idea if they used a 7 day week, and since it was changed to gregorian, so what doe 

that do? 

I don't live in the times of thousands of years ago on this planet. I live NOW. I am a very old soul. I 

have had many lives all over the place. This is #6 on this planet. Time is different on every world 

even when they make a global society, depending on their natural length of days, and their journey 

around their sun, IF THEY JOURNEY around a sun, because man journey planets with moons 

too. Mars has a different length of year, Venus also etc and I mention them because there is life 

on them and a whole bunch of folks of earth will be moving to Venus in the not very far away 

future. So what days are there? How have they done it. 

No matter where there is intelligent life able to make calendars or measure time, its going to be 

according to the nature of the planets. And there is then a jillions of craft and how is time 

measured on them? 

and who cares what Constantine said, they made a sabbath day to make money. end of story. 

And to control people. Who even decides which day is the first day of the week, or the last day? 

We don't even need "weeks". We could just have months, or maybe just 4 periods of the year to 

coincide with the Solstice and Equinoxes? In fact that makes a LOT OF SENSE. It's "natural" and 

man has made great errors on this planet by not taking account of nature, he seems not to care if 

he destroys all the life on this planet, including himself, because he remains dependent on that life. 

I do no sabbath, I would not do such a silly thing. I take time off as i need it, or when I am seeing 

friends and the like. I worked a lot of man's sabbath days in the hospital. I rarely even had 

weekends off, not a whole one anyway, because of money and babysitting issues. 

I am free from many cares in this world and what day it is, concerns me not at all except that I pay 

the bills "on time" so services are not interrupted. 

And some day we WILL create a world that does not use money, so "tithing" will be given as your 


works, and not as money to God who has no bank account. Since money won't be used eventually 

that eliminates the use of billing dates. We will build a world that runs with nature and on simple 

terms. And the more technology that can be made, robots and the like in manufacturing, we will 

free people up from a lot of work, and there will truly be time to actually LIVE and GROW the mind 

and soul spiritually. 

God could care less about some day taken off in his honor. 

My hope on this board revolves around the fact that some perhaps will wake up to false laws and 

control systems that have nothing to do with God. 

If a culture genuinely enjoys certain special days and wishes to set aside family time free of 

chores, by cooking food the day before and the like, more power to them. I don't have a problem. 

God in fact would "encourage" that because people would intentionally come together to be 

together and that is all good. 

Lets say man choses a 5 days week, which day then would be the "sabbath." Or he might chose 

periods equal to the moon, so what is the sabbath day? 

Indigenous peoples, I suppose they all go to hell because they don't have a sabbath day? it's a 

silly concept. It is proper that man not work at a JOB 7 days a week, employers have been known 

to enslave people to that. Man does need time off from his labors, but man can negotiate that. 

Every minute of every hour of every day is GOD"S DAY. And hey, where did our minutes and 

hours come from? Why 24 hours? why 60 minutes in an hour. WHO CARES????????????? Man 

should create something that fits his life on the planet on which he lives. 

I find nothing wrong with coming together to share and so sing and worship but it doesn't have to 

be an a sabbath day. 


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Love is the highest motivation which man may utilize in his universe ascent. Love is the 

desire to do good to others-Urantia Book 

Moral acts are those human performances which are characterized by the highest intelligence, 

directed by selective discrimination in the choice of superior ends as well as in the selection of 

moral means to attain these ends. Such conduct is virtuous. Supreme virtue, then, is 

wholeheartedly to choose to do the will of the Father in heaven. UB 

Fresh Revelation for this age found in The Urantia Book, The Phoenix Journals, The Course in 

Miracles (the 365 lessons, NOT the URTEXT which is FULL of BLING and otherwise google 

Candace Frieze. Also visit [link to www.wisdomoftherays.com] , Dolores Cannon, and 

Conversations with God, in which the main God giving the material is Buddha. 

We must build a new SANE world, ONE THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY, for the reason money is 

the root of all evil, is that it Enslaves the SOUL. Be about watching Aaron Russo's From Freedom 

to Fascism. 

Seeking Visionaries,who can and will create the many messianic missions needed to heal Earth 

and her peoples, and bring balance. Seeking those who Know their truth, ( as they listen to Their 


Father Fragment) and will strive earnestly to stand in that truth 100% of the time, making every 

moment of everyday, a Holy Event. TWO OR MORE IN MY NAME. There is no special Day for 

God. Forget your Sabbath Days. Every Day is the Lord's Day. 

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For an example, let me present one paragraph from this absurd literary monstrosity: 

"(184.1) 16:0.1 

THE Seven Master Spirits of Paradise are the primary personalities of the Infinite Spirit. In this 

sevenfold creative act of self-duplication the Infinite Spirit exhausted the associative possibilities 

mathematically inherent in the factual existence of the three persons of Deity. Had it been possible 

to produce a larger number of Master Spirits, they would have been created, but there are just 

seven associative possibilities, and only seven, inherent in three Deities. And this explains why 

the universe is operated in seven grand divisions, and why the number seven is basically 

fundamental in its organization and administration." 

[link to www.urantia.org] 

Ummmmm, does anyone have the slightest effing clue what the fuck this paragraph is even talking 

about? Well the answer is absolutely nothing, it is just a bunch of nice sounding and words 

jumbled together to sound cool or spiritual for all the idiots out there who will actually buy into this 

garbage. 


We OP, it makes perfect sense to me because I understand how a lot of this work. Play with the 

math of Father son and spirit, there are 7 combinations possible. You ones have the trinity down 

wrong, it is not God, his only Son Jesus and some strange and weird holy spirit. These are 

FORCES of consciousness, more than "people" but the are self conscious also because that is the 

nature of consciousness. 

I have to personally work with Master Spirit #7 who is over the 7th superuniverse, his name as 

given simply in English is Siraya. This book was given for the study of those coming to this planet 

AFTER the cleansing and was gotten into print the year after the return of MIchael of Nebadon, 

covered as jesus in the UB. It was done at that time for anyone interested and to help awaken the 

star seeds from those higher realms that are here, and that is has done. I am one of them. 

Future students here will EXPLORE the nature of God and this book will be greatly helpful to 

them. If you can't read some of it, find that which you can! and move from there. Go again to 

the UB thread here for selections of the more readable stuff. 

The study of God and the Creation is complex. And simple at the same time. 

now as to the 7 associative possibilities there is 1: Father 2: Eternal Son 3: Infinite Spirit 4: Father 

and Son 5: Father and Spirit 6: Son and Spirit 7: Father son and spirit. Now these are "forces" that 

work in certain ways, and the Trinity cannot be expanded beyond what it is, which is the 7 

combinations above I just listed and as you study there are tons of 7 fold stuff, 7 is a very common 


number in the creation. 

The Master Spirits, are 7 one for each SuperUniverse. Again, ours is Siraya. They each live on 7 

different spheres of the Infinite Spirit around Paradise. Infinite Spirit contributes EVOLUTIONARY 

MIND to the creation. 


Don't take this the wrong way but your writing appears to be as convoluted as the the book itself. 


Well you are going to have to wade thru the book if there is interest and some of it will come in 

time. STart with the easy parts, there are easy parts. The creation consists of the Central Universe 

around which all the rest of the Creation turns, just as earth turns around our sun, which turns 

around Alcyone and I don't know what Alcyone turns around. 

There are 7 superuniverses, that turn around the Central Universe. We live in #7 and it's massive, 

the Milky Way is the core Galaxy of it, but not the whole thing. The creation is totally MANAGED 

and each Master Spirit is in the fullest sense the MIND of each Superuniverse. God is not a bunch 

of people running earth people. Every time you say GOD SAYS, you don't have a clue what you 

mean by that, I promise you. It's your guardian angels and lots of others in the hierarchy. Just as 

we have layers of hierarchy here on earth. Presidents, mayors, kings, queens, countries, states 

and so on and so forth. What you label God are ADMINISTRATORS. Each superuniverse has 

100,000 LOCAL universes. Each of these has a government. Michael of Nebadon, Jesus, is the 

CREATOR SON (GOD) of Nebadon. 

The Gabriel is for example the chief Executive of Nebadon. Ponder that one new agers when you 

do your silly fluffy stuff on these high administrators. There are not fluffy winged pretty folks OK. 

But there are a lot of Arch angels here on earth at this time. Your fluffy Arch Angel Michael is not a 

fluff at all. he administrates the upcoming resurrection. He is called the Arch Angel of the 

Resurrection. 

You ones have got to take on some serious material and drop your bibles and new age bullshit too 

for that matter. 

Your Ashtar Command has as it's main purpose the evacuation of this planet when the time 

comes. The New Jerusalem is the command craft with a computer that maintains your soul 

records just in case of man playing with Nuclear energies which harm soul matter. 

I tried doing a thread on heaven once, what you do for eternal life, well people are still 3 years old 

here, and the result was not pretty. You ones have got to work on expanding your concept of 

"God." the UB is a very good place to do that. 


You aren't helping, quit mixing stuff from Ashtar and your other crap with the Urantia Book. We are 

in the first super universe. Joshua ben Joseph aka Jesus Christ aka Michel of Nebadon is the 

creator of this superuniverse. 



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You aren't helping, quit mixing stuff from Ashtar and your other crap with the Urantia Book. 

We are in the first super universe. Joshua ben Joseph aka Jesus Christ aka Michel of 

Nebadon is the creator of this superuniverse. (Quoted from above) 

Hmm, you didn't quite understand the UB did you? It clearly says he is creator of NEBADON in it, 

and that Nebadon is local universe #611,121, and that it's part of Orvonton. I am not confusing 

anything, you are. I haven't covered Ashtar much in this thread, except I think I said, Ashtar 

Command is responsible for the upcoming evacuation of this planet????? Not going thru all that. I 

made a quote not by Ashtar at all, on one of the laws of God, concerning the sabbath day, and 

that is from Phoenix Journal #27 and the Phoenix Journals main writer is Michael of Nebadon. (at 

Aton/Hatonn. Ashtar is not involved with PJ #27 at all that I recall. 

The superuniverse was not created by a creator Son at all. The parts of it were created by many 

creator sons, the local universes. Go back and please place the papers and pages from the UB 

that says what you claim. Orvonton Is the 7th superuniverse and Nebadons' # of 611,121 supports 

that concept. 

I am going to bed right now. 


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There is a lot of logic in it. 

Quoting: Shield 1461270 

Yeah, Sci-Fi is like that Mr. Spock... 


Gene Roddenberry was a student of the Urantia Book, that is where the free will, non interference, 

man must evolve on his own came from. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ take up one third 

of the book. It is now online: 


129:4.5 Jesus knows about the thoughts and feelings, the urges and impulses, of the evolutionary 

and ascendant mortals of the realms, from birth to death. He has lived the human life from the 

beginnings of physical, intellectual, and spiritual selfhood up through infancy, childhood, youth, 

and adulthood — even to the human experience of death. He not only passed through these usual 

and familiar human periods of intellectual and spiritual advancement, but he also fully experienced 

those higher and more advanced phases of human and Adjuster reconciliation which so few 

Urantia mortals ever attain. And thus he experienced the full life of mortal man, not only as it is 

lived on your world, but also as it is lived on all other evolutionary worlds of time and space, even 

on the highest and most advanced of all the worlds settled in light and life. 



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Thankyou Hurchel. And I often suggest that people start with that last 1/3 because the teachings 

are great, and there are fewer new words and concepts to learn. For those steeped in Christianity, 

it's especially good, but one doesn't need to even have a religious background to appreciate the 

wondrous teaching in that section. 

Hurchel, I don't know if you are aware of the UB thread I have, if not, give it a look and post your 

favorite quotes there. Its a big book, people are unsure of it, and those nice bits and pieces could 

help ones find n interest in exploring it further. Please always post which paper, pages, and 

sections so people can find the rest around it. If you are posting from the official site, the paper, 

sections are clearly stated already. Official site is www.urantia.org There are other sites and I don't 

know if they have upgraded to the more recent methods or not. 

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] 

Please read the purpose of the thread in the first post, before you post there. I am always thrilled 

when others participate and I don't worry if something favorite gets posted more than once, its a 

good review always. 



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7/19/2011 12:47 AM 

I'd rather sing the Quran all day than read Urantia. I read two chapters, that was enough for me. 



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to each his own, but the first two chapters are either the easiest or the hardest, depending on what 

you know about God. I suggest skipping around, I did. I don't ever read anything front to back 

anyway. 


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7/19/2011 12:51 AM 



to each his own, but the first two chapters are either the easiest or the hardest, depending on what 

you know about God. I suggest skipping around, I did. I don't ever read anything front to back 

anyway. 


It was two random chapters, not the first two chapters. And I would like to think I have a pretty 

good ideal of god and some direct gnosis of god. Who knows though, maybe not. 

GUANO 


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justice. 


Quoting: GUANO 

the Universes are managed, and there are COURTS. This planet has been outside of those courts 

because of the Lucifer Rebellion, a whole bunch of folks left the union. And Gods of vengeance 

have been the war type owners of this planet, and its going back under heaven management. 

There have been because of the galactic wars some very bossy orions and others over this planet 

that did take out vengeance but that is no longer the case. There are still some folks who abuse 

thru the law on this planet, but as we rebuild, justice will become honest justice. 


Uni- Having or consisting of ONE. Whatever you're talking about is not 'the universe' but you must 

be talking about 'universe' as in 'A particular sphere of activity, interest, or experience'... 

I guess you could say that 'the universe' (and all subsequent spheres of activity within the whole) 

is/are 'managed'; and I supposed you could then metaphorize it by making suppositions regarding 

each perceived 'administrative force' and assign human, animal, astronomical, or nature-like 

'character traits' to each perceived force and then present via some medium, an imagined 

scenario which describes how the perceived 'administrative forces' interact with each other under 

specific criteria/stimuli... 

"heaven" is this realm of government and there is a heavenly host which is responsible for all 

spheres of activity, for the most part though, they all exist in the same 'place'--if it could be called a 

place at all--the only thing one could do to describe it would be to say that the 'mind' is the 

'heaven' of the 'body' as it is the seat of the forces which motivate action, these forces (thoughts, 

emotions-conscious and unconscious) govern and motivate my behaviors under external and 

internal stimuli yet have not been proven to have any physical 'substance' to them, still a mystery. 

"Death" is an 'angel' or 'angelic being'; it is a 'thing that exists, is observed in all living things, and 

can be said to govern the fate of all living creatures'... Thermodynamics can also be said to be an 

'angel'... 

Some things you observe but many you do not. I have a big problem with your model of the 

'universes' they don't make much sense... I've followed the Urantia Book and I understand it's 

philosophies (as if enough books haven't been written on the subject)... But it's just another death 


cult... You follow a pretty serious death cult... Many of you call Lucifer 'fallen' some of you say he's 

good, some of you say he's bad, but whether you say he's good or bad makes no difference, 

you're all practicing his philosophies and using his religious model of 'as above so below' yet you 

follow a religious model which says earth 'human will' is the center of the universe and that 'sol' 

and 'luna' were created to revolve around it. Sure, some of the philosophies have been updated 

but the theological model of the discipline still models itself after a flawed universe-model created 

by ego... 

Oh yes... Determine for yourself what is good and evil, do not revolve around sol! let sol revolve 

around you! remove yourself from spiritual harmony with the godhead! you will not surely die! 

rubbish. Everything in this solar system and for all we know, the rest of the physical plane, dies! 

And it all most likely came about simply because someone believed a lie about 'how things 

operate'... 

Even the urantia book follows the observer-hive-mind theory... There is a missing component 

which holds it all together and that's called faith... But soon the world will lose faith in all 

government and society, and those will crash again, and they will lose all faith in the stability of 

nature, and nature will be come unstable again, it will most likely lead to another extinction event, 

those who know not the truth will be defeated by the lie, fear, and their own delusions, they will 

probably see a light from the sky before they die in the fire... those who know the truth will 

welcome this light through faith that it is the promised 'day' and it will be their savior--and it 

certainly will be. 


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7/19/2011 1:00 AM 

Burn for turning away from god 

GUANO 


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Burn for turning away from god 


you don't understand the concept of 'burning'... you have been fed lies... 

Humans = earth elements = spirit elements 

In order for the pure elements (spirits/motivations) to be extracted and observed and refined, a fire 

must be put to the elements. The fire is right here right now, some welcome it, some fear it... 

Those who do not wish their elements (the forces which motivate them to action) to be seen in the 


light of truth and judged as 'wrong' or 'evil'... 

... It's no wonder people jump on the Luciferian bandwagon to help them cope... 

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No you are wrong and misquoting the book Jesus Christ is the 121,611 of his kind. a creator son, 

This superuniverse is orvonton: 

0:0.5 Your world, Urantia, is one of many similar inhabited planets which comprise the local 

universe of Nebadon. This universe, together with similar creations, makes up the superuniverse 

of Orvonton, from whose capital, Uversa, our commission hails. Orvonton is one of the seven 

evolutionary superuniverses of time and space which circle the never-beginning, never-ending 

creation of divine perfection — the central universe of Havona. At the heart of this eternal and 

central universe is the stationary Isle of Paradise, the geographic center of infinity and the dwelling 

place of the eternal God. 

TXGal4Truth 

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hurchel 

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that concept. 



No you are wrong, Jesus was the 121, 611 of his kind a creator son, Michael of Nebadon of the 

Phoenix Journals is not Michael of Nebadon, the creator of the life in this universe. The seven 

superuniverses are still evolving, 








I have been reading for over 35 years, and you sound like you have contaminated the papers of 

the book with that Teaching Mission crappe. When the Urantia Foundation lost the copyright to the 

name and all the freaks that wanted to make money started the "teaching Mission" Aton, Ashtar, 

galactic federation channeling bull that ruined the Urantia book growth and split the group. In fact, 

you sound like one of the Gabriel of Urantia Starseed light worker group in Arizona, that has been 

repeatedly enjoined by the foundation for his abortion of its basic truths. I think you mean well, but 

you are confusing numbers and making up your own little fairy tale, let people read the book if they 

want too. The guy that started this thread is obviously not intelligent enough to understand it. All 

that matters is god and Jesus Christ. Both Christians and Urantians make this foremost in their 

lives. The Urantia book only adds to the bible. For me it filled up the empty parts missing from the 

edited 66 books of the bible. 

ETemissary 

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The urantia book was created by reptilians as well as all religions & bibles to 

specifically/intentionally divide & conquer/confuse/distract humans in order to better control 

humans... 

so that people would endlessly argue & fight with each other over who knows the 'highest truth' & 

which god is the real god.. jesus? aton? christ michael? or some other false god... 

thank god(literally) that we currently live in a somewhat civilized society where most of these 

insane enraged ego battles are contained within a internet forum ... otherwise i would imagine you 

people fighting each other to the death with sticks & stones over who's god is the real god.. lol 

honestly... its now mid-2011.. its time to gently wake-up from thousands of years of disinformation, 

manipulation, fear & old religious belief systems ... 

to become truly spiritual & free 



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7/19/2011 9:15 AM 



humans... 










Quoting: ETemissary 

ET, again remember we have been down this road before. You average reptilian has been 

imprisoned for bad behavior for so long they wouldn't even have a clue about the information in it 

and remember, you have not read it worth jack shit by your own admissions some time ago, so 

you have no comments to make on it. I posted some lovely information from it a few pages back 

from the same paper that OP posted one small introductory paragraph from and it's quite readable 

and very very good. Move backwards and actually read it before you spout off you mouth, 

because your ignorance and your shilling me is showing hugely once again. Just because you 

can't read doesn't make the book reptilian. And just because you shill doesn't make it bad either. 

You ones that shill almost point yourselves out so well. the purpose of the UB was to wake people 

up from thousands of years of disinformation and it's very very good. To those curious ones 

capable of real thought that is. 




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7/19/2011 10:35 AM 

I know how to settle this. Whoever has the most accurate predictions wins. Oh, wait, 

That still leaves you 0 to 0. 


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7/19/2011 10:47 AM 

Fucking loonies 

moran versus nutjob part XXXXVIIVXXMM 


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7/19/2011 11:10 AM 

To All,1. Michael of Nebadon 

(366.2) 33:1.1 Our Creator Son is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite 

identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. The Michael of 

Nebadon is the ―only-begotten Son‖ personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and 

infinity. His headquarters is in the threefold mansion of light on Salvington. And this dwelling is so 

ordered because Michael has experienced the living of all three phases of intelligent creature 

existence: spiritual, morontial, and material. Because of the name associated with his seventh and 

final bestowal on Urantia, he is sometimes spoken of as Christ Michael. 

(366.3) 33:1.2 Our Creator Son is not the Eternal Son, the existential Paradise associate of the 

Universal Father and the Infinite Spirit. Michael of Nebadon is not a member of the Paradise 

Trinity. Nevertheless our Master Son possesses in his realm all of the divine attributes and powers 

that the Eternal Son himself would manifest were he actually to be present on Salvington and 

functioning in Nebadon. Michael possesses even additional power and authority, for he not only 

personifies the Eternal Son but also fully represents and actually embodies the personality 

presence of the Universal Father to and in this local universe. He even represents the Father-Son. 

These relationships constitute a Creator Son the most powerful, versatile, and influential of all 

divine beings who are capable of direct administration of evolutionary universes and of personality 

contact with immature creature beings. 

(366.4) 33:1.3 Our Creator Son exerts the same spiritual drawing power, spirit gravity, from the 

headquarters of the local universe that the Eternal Son of Paradise would exert if he were 

personally present on Salvington, and more; this Universe Son is also the personification of the 

Universal Father to the universe of Nebadon. Creator Sons are personality centers for the spiritual 

forces of the Paradise Father-Son. Creator Sons are the final power-personality focalizations of 


the mighty time-space attributes of God the Sevenfold. 

(367.1) 33:1.4 The Creator Son is the vicegerent personalization of the Universal Father, the 

divinity co-ordinate of the Eternal Son, and the creative associate of the Infinite Spirit. To our 

universe and all its inhabited worlds the Sovereign Son is, to all practical intents and purposes, 

God. He personifies all of the Paradise Deities which evolving mortals can discerningly 

comprehend. This Son and his Spirit associate are your creator parents. To you, Michael, the 

Creator Son, is the supreme personality; to you, the Eternal Son is supersupreme — an infinite 

Deity personality. 

(367.2) 33:1.5 In the person of the Creator Son we have a ruler and divine parent who is just as 

mighty, efficient, and beneficent as would be the Universal Father and the Eternal Son if both were 

present on Salvington and engaged in the administration of the affairs of the universe of Nebadon. 




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7/19/2011 11:20 AM 

Thank you white Rose for providing the clarifying information. also beloved thankyou for your 

earlier post of your experience in which you showed your integrity, your passion, and your 

authenticity! 


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7/19/2011 11:24 AM 

To All, The way's of God are not the way's of man.God is no respecter of persons(no chosen 

persons or race,to do otherwise would make God a racist)also to God all days are holy(sabbath),to 

have just one day as sabbath is a machination of mammon,to be used to control! All days are the 

sabbath. If we work for the betterment of God's Universe and our fellow men under the principals 

of the "Golden Rule" as we work to supply our own individual needs our work will be a prayer to 

our Creator Father thus sanctifying every day all day! the white rose 




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7/19/2011 11:25 AM 

I know how to settle this. Whoever has the most accurate predictions wins. Oh, wait, 

That still leaves you 0 to 0. 


Excuse me, this is not a thread about "predictions". You must not have read it very well. 

If you are going to be here, you CAN DO BETTER. 




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7/19/2011 11:26 AM 

Fucking loonies 

moran versus nutjob part XXXXVIIVXXMM 


Ditto to you. 

Pretty shallow communication. YOU CAN ALSO DO BETTER. 

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information. 

















Dude, your avatar looks like a guy who would be ripped a new asshole by Eric Cartman in South 

Park. In fact, I'm going to email the South Park writters to encourage using your avatar as a dirty 

hippy for Cartman to rip on. 

Seriously, you talk to beings of other then Earth origin? BS! 

Dude, wake up! 

Religion is the biggest cause of human misery, death, destruction and lack of spiritual progress. 


Want REAL peace, study ABOVE RELIGION. A small movement of people looking to remove 

religion from the social networkings. We still recognize a God or higher power like Creation being 

intelligent, but it is recognized as a personal, internal concept that belongs private. 

No books, no gatherings, no spiritual advise. Connection with the higher force requires no external 

corruption to obtain a powerful understanding of the universe. 

As life is experienced through the eye of the beholder and no more. 


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7/19/2011 11:38 AM 

Actually, I have read quite a bit of this stuff, which is WHY I have not bothered to read most of this 

thread. 

I ended up here because the Urantia stuff sounded interesting, and even nice. 

It didn't take long to figure out what a crazy endless loop of "any day now" you guys are playing. 

BTW - the title of this thread is "The Book of Urantia = Biggest Crock of Bullshit I've Ever 

Read", which is what attracted me. 

ps - You Urantia guys sure do like to use 20 words where 1 would do. And they rarely add up to 

anything substantial. 

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7/19/2011 11:40 AM 

If someone is demon..it is God of old testament... 

The Bible reveals an important, yet often overlooked trait of God's nature and that is his thirst for 

blood. From the beginning of his dealings with man he has shown his preference for spilled blood; 

he accepted Able's offering of sheep's blood and rejected Cain's offering of grains and plants 

(Genesis 4:3-5). God has told man that the shedding of blood is required to be forgiven of sins 

(Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22). In the Old Testament, millions of animals were slaughtered and 

their blood poured onto altars and burned in a futile attempt to please God. The smoke from the 

burning flesh and blood was such a sweet scent to God (Exodus 29:18, Leviticus 1:9), that his 

anger was appeased when he smelled the sweet, burning blood (Genesis 8:21) Even the 

human/god sacrifice of Jesus is compared to the sweet smelling barbecue of an animal 

(Epehsians 5:2). Why is blood so sweet to this vampiric God? Why is blood required to be spilled 

in order to receive forgiveness from this "merciful" God? Don't ask these questions, "just believe," 

you will be told. Besides why risk ending up in an eternal barbecue just because things smell a 

little strange to you? 

FORE MORE TRUTH, these things you cant deny they are supported by bible verses ;)) 

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7/19/2011 11:56 AM 














that concept. 

























Quoting: hurchel 

I have contaminated NOTHING of the UB. The teaching mission in fact is part of the plan, but it 

has been corrupted heavily by the CIA Council of the NOT SO LIGHT. The UB does NOT cover it 

all and some facets of the history of this earth were left out ON PURPOSE. There are certain 

pearls that cannot be given until it is time. I have no idea WHO or WHAT YOU MEAN by the 

"Gabriel of Urantia Starseed group in Arizona. I am not familiar with them and have no idea if they 

are kosher or CIA Council of the NOT SO Light sponsored. 

Aton IS Christ MIchael dear one and he authored much of the Phoenix Journals, and is was not 

possible for him at the time to use the term Michael of Nebadon, but he implied it a great deal and 

often quoted from the UB in fact. 

What I am doing is telling the whole truth that is allowed at this time. Michael HAS returned. All 

that matters for those growing up IS growing their souls in more knowledge. The Urantia book in 

several places KILLS the Bible, in terms of truth, and to get it published in the first place in this 

country which was chosen as the main outlet for more advanced knowledge, there had to be 

material in agreement with Christianity. And if you have read it, you know it is considered an 

inferior religion, even if somewhat better than the others. 

I do not define myself ever, as a "Christian" a Urantian, A new ager, or any other such labels 

because I do not so label myself, I don't follow anything, but which is inside of me and of what I 

AM. I am completely sovereign. 

My organization is in fact the 2nd Coming PARTNERSHIP organization that will lead this world 

into higher knowledge after the big cleanse. Michael removed Lucifer's control system 2000 years 

ago. And also since then and particularly since his return in 1954, has seen to removal other 

control systems, and controllers of this world. The planet is now fully back under the controls of 

Nebadon. There was more than just the Lucifer Rebellion covered in the UB, there is the out 

working going on of the galactic wars. This is very complex and not a topic in this post, but there is 

much more than just the Creator Son making a nice final bestowal here on this world. We are 

teaching more of the total purpose now. 

He initiated more teaching, thru the PJ's when he got desperate that the Spirit of truth and the 

universal bestowal of Thought Adjusters to all with normal minds upon their first conscious moral 

deed was not working so well on this planet. They had even given up completely at the end of the 

last decade of the 1990's and allowed 911 to happen, this world has been protected from MANY 

911 type events, and happily that woke some people up (not enough still but it was a start), and 

new hope was generated. I was contacted in 1998 very officially to begin to prepare for service 

and I went public with Esu in 2005 (after a serious attempt to murder me.) 


I am teaching the WHAT IS and I do not deviate from it. If you look closely in the UB it says there 

WAS a person associated with Michael when he was here, and that person IS Esu Sananda 

Kumara. Michael of Nebadon, as a photon spirit being from paradise cannot INCARNATE directly 

into a human body. I can't either, I am a photon being from Paradise, a Mighty Messenger. So we 

have to borrow a body to use. There is mind linkage. 

Somebody had to walk this plane WITH MICHAEL to bear his energy directly into that area. The 

partner in that was Esu, who is also a mighty messenger. 

I am involved in filling in the blanks so to speak, between the UB and the PJ's as Michael could not 

be obvious in that at that time. They were put down anyway, the usual thugs came around. They 

had to be very careful still then and now what is released. 

I do board ship regularly for cosmic meetings and I know of what I speak if I speak it. If I don't, I 

say so, using words like "guess" or maybe, or it I think it possible. 

Siraya is directly involved in this planet at this time, advisory and more. this is an extremely 

important world in Nebadon and in fact Orvonton at this time. Siraya is MASTER SPIRIT #7, which 

is why with the quote OP started this thread with, I took such an interest. I am connected directly 

to him plus the several others I work with. I will in fact be giving a message from him, when the 

upcoming opportunity presents itself. Some of my team have also introduced (Kibo), Immanuel of 

Nebadon a few months ago, who is personally involved on the councils around plans for this 

world. Even the Father of Paradise has personal involvement in this world because of the nasties 

that were placed here from several Orvonton Universes as part of the big clean up going on. 

There are issues to complex to spell out here, maybe I will a bit is some express interest, but there 

is a major problem that has crept up in the younger universes of Orvonton, and it must be stopped 

in its tracks. As part of that, all inhabited planets in Nebadon that are not already in 4d or higher 

consciousness are being brought up to that level thru the correcting time, or if that is not possible, 

they are being cleansed, and will be re inhabited by God conscious individuals when the life on 

them has sufficiently rebounded. 

That was a consideration for Urantia too, but we have a different plan. Otherwise Urantia, after the 

necessary cleansing would not be habitable by 5d level man for 3000 years or more. there is new 

territory being covered. The UB does not express all of these sorts of things, it would be given 

pearls to the dark and others would simply not understand. If ones here express interest I will 

cover some of the other issues of universal management as directed at this planet and the 

problem in Nebadon and others in general. 

There will be a UB #2 that will cover more of the details about the galactic warning and other 

facets of the history of the planet. it was necessary to leave that out and it was already 2000+ 

pages any way. It was much more important to focus on the teachings about how the cosmos 

works and is administered. 




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7/19/2011 12:07 PM 


If someone is demon..it is God of old testament... 

The Bible reveals an important, yet often overlooked trait of God's nature and that is his thirst for 

blood. From the beginning of his dealings with man he has shown his preference for spilled blood; 

he accepted Able's offering of sheep's blood and rejected Cain's offering of grains and plants 

(Genesis 4:3-5). God has told man that the shedding of blood is required to be forgiven of sins 

(Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22). In the Old Testament, millions of animals were slaughtered and 

their blood poured onto altars and burned in a futile attempt to please God. The smoke from the 

burning flesh and blood was such a sweet scent to God (Exodus 29:18, Leviticus 1:9), that his 

anger was appeased when he smelled the sweet, burning blood (Genesis 8:21) Even the 

human/god sacrifice of Jesus is compared to the sweet smelling barbecue of an animal 

(Epehsians 5:2). Why is blood so sweet to this vampiric God? Why is blood required to be spilled 

in order to receive forgiveness from this "merciful" God? Don't ask these questions, "just believe," 

you will be told. Besides why risk ending up in an eternal barbecue just because things smell a 

little strange to you? 

FORE MORE TRUTH, these things you cant deny they are supported by bible verses ;)) 

[link to www.luciferianliberationfront.org] 

Quoting: Mustis 

Thankyou Mustis. People that have actually read the whole bible with inquiring and knowing minds 

picked up on this stuff. And the Crucifixion with NAILS was indeed the dark method of barbecue. 

In fact, in those ancients days a lot of those animal sacrifices were barbecues for dark ones. 

reptilians right on this planet (for 4 million years), have had some craft and there have been the 

groups from orion etc too, who ordered up barbecues. And how today, of you ones enjoy the 

'sweet smelling burning blood of meat on your barbecues. HUman, does not consume flesh. 

This is a good thread. In it I am well pleased with the good stuff in it coming forth. 



YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 1:02 PM 

Here is another reason we know that the UB is bullshit 

There is no prophecy in it 

No prophets means no contact with the Spirit/Creator 

it was written by some super scientist without SPIRIT! 

That why they don't Prophecy, they cant! 

We have prophetic word that has come true for thousands of years from the scriptures of Truth in 

the Bible 

And lets remember that a half truth is a full Lie! 


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7/19/2011 1:06 PM 

Here is prophecy from the Most High God revealed to HIS servants..... 

Things are going down in Oct 2011 if the following things happen first 

We don't need to set dates, only watch for these signs 

1. the 7 year peace treaty with Israel and Palestine 

2. the dividing of the state of Israel, the dividing of the city of Jerusalem 

3. the restarting of the blood sacrifice on the temple mount, this can be performed in a temporary 

tabernacle erected overnight at the Dome of Spirits on the temple mount 

These 3 things must happen for the end to begin 


The blood sacrifice must occur on the feast day of Sukkot/Tabernacles due to rabbinical law 

Once this sacrifice happens, this is the single act which starts Jacobs trouble 

This will only begin on the feast day of Sukkot/Tabernacles 

What is coming in Sept is Palestine will be declared a sovereign state, once this happens we will 

see war instantly and the peace treaty to follow 

With peace treaty signed in sept or oct they would be right in line to start their blood sacrifice over 

the perfect sacrifice of Yahushua/Jesus 

They will only begin this sacrifice on the feast of Sukkot/Tabernacles which means that the starting 

of the tribulation must begin on this feast day 

Amos 3: 6-8 Septuagint 

"Shall the trumpet sound in the city, and the people not be alarmed? shall there be evil in a city 

which the Lord has not wrought? For the Lord God will do nothing without revealing instruction to 

his servants the prophets. A lion shall roar, and who will not be alarmed? the Lord God has 

spoken, and who will not prophesy?" 

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7/19/2011 1:20 PM 







the Bible 




It is a teaching book about God, the cosmos, the history of earth mind the galactic wars, and it was 

never intended as prophecy, the best it comes to that is that MIchael of Nebadon promised 

someday to return, and that was a big hint, because without the return, it would be necesssary to 

give it. Since when must "prophecy" be given for a work to come from the hosts of heaven? 

That is not the most brilliant of criteria Yah. Thus the bible is a full lie too, under your criteria. 




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7/19/2011 1:32 PM 

























And who gave this "prophecy" because it is not of Michael of Nebadon. His only prophecy per se 

is that we are going to grow up this world of his bestowal and its part of the solution to wide spread 

problems in Nebadon and some other universes in Orvonton. 

BLOOD Sacrifices are not part of God, ever. You have exposed hugely who you are. They are of 

the dark. What you are providing is DARK PLANS not plans of God. I know about some of this 

stuff, its discussed at meetings, but it's not the prophecy of God. There are many Lord Gods in the 

Bible Yah, which one are your quoting? 


YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 1:53 PM 








the Bible 



It is a teaching book about God, the cosmos, the history of earth mind the galactic wars, and it was 

never intended as prophecy, the best it comes to that is that MIchael of Nebadon promised 

someday to return, and that was a big hint, because without the return, it would be necesssary to 

give it. Since when must "prophecy" be given for a work to come from the hosts of heaven? 

That is not the most brilliant of criteria Yah. Thus the bible is a full lie too, under your criteria. 


Thanks for helping me expose the UB lies again 

UB has no prophecy = Fake 

Koran has no prophecy = Fake 

are you staring to see a pattern? 

The creator gives us prophets for a reason, to show us that those writing these books are 

connected to the SPIRIT of God 

Only those connected to the SPIRIT can prophecy and tell the future 

Just like the ancient tribe of Isakar, they always knew the future of the children of Israel 

Some Christians today are the spiritual sons of Isakar! 









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7/19/2011 2:03 PM 

Well Yah, thanKYOU for exposing your own intents and the belief that blood thirsty shit must 

continue. Says it all, Enough. I have not seen you post so darkly before, maybe I just missed it but, 

I am saddened indeed. 


YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 2:10 PM 

Are you blind? can you read? 

it says the jews will restart the blood sacrifice and this is what begins the tribulation 

it appears the Lord does not want this sacrifice 

you should read the post before you TRY to slam them 

dont keep letting your ego blind you from the simple truths 


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7/19/2011 2:20 PM 

The creator gives us prophets for a reason..... 


No He doesn't YAH! 

The Creator speaks to each of us individually.........it is MAN who comes along and decides that 

his brothers need a TELL-ALL to rule over them through!!! :( 



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7/19/2011 2:21 PM 







Yah, I read the post and I know the intent. I am aware of this shit being planned. That you have 

posted some of it, is alarming and I don't know where you got it, from another, or you are kept 

informed yourself by somebody. It matters not. 

I am also aware of your darts sent thru the etheric, and I am going to do my best now with your 

above exposure, to remember never to answer to a post of yours again anywhere here. I will 

probably blow it at least once and once I realize that, I will removed the post. I have given up all 

hope regards your intents. 




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7/19/2011 2:22 PM 

I am SO glad that my relationship with my creator has nothing to do with whether or not I believe 

EITHER of your books. 

I am done with religious bible-thumpers who feel comfortable ignoring the ONLY THREE WORDS 

in the bible that really matter: LOVE THY NEIGHBOR 

And I couldn't care less about the UB's "any day now" "it's going to be a bumpy ride" space-jesus 

junk. 

You are all selling a product that sounds great in the commercial, but ends up being crap when it 

arrives in the mail - IF it ever arrives... 

YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 2:38 PM 








Obe, 

that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard on this site 


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7/19/2011 2:41 PM 







Obe, 



Well, granted it doesn't fit into YOUR belief structure..........but it's the Truth! 

YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 2:47 PM 








Yah, I read the post and I know the intent. I am aware of this shit being planned. That you have 

posted some of it, is alarming and I don't know where you got it, from another, or you are kept 

informed yourself by somebody. It matters not. 

I am also aware of your darts sent thru the etheric, and I am going to do my best now with your 

above exposure, to remember never to answer to a post of yours again anywhere here. I will 

probably blow it at least once and once I realize that, I will removed the post. I have given up all 

hope regards your intents. 


They are not darts candace, they are prayers of protection for YOU from your demon contacts 

I know they dont like this, i have received feedback on you.... 

This is why I know so much about you and what YOUR agenda is 

I have not lost hope for you, you can still CHOOSE to repent and quit this deception 

ETemissary 

11:11 

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7/19/2011 2:48 PM 




humans... 










ET, again remember we have been down this road before. You average reptilian has been 

imprisoned for bad behavior for so long they wouldn't even have a clue about the information in it 

and remember, you have not read it worth jack shit by your own admissions some time ago, so 

you have no comments to make on it. I posted some lovely information from it a few pages back 

from the same paper that OP posted one small introductory paragraph from and it's quite readable 

and very very good. Move backwards and actually read it before you spout off you mouth, 

because your ignorance and your shilling me is showing hugely once again. Just because you 

can't read doesn't make the book reptilian. And just because you shill doesn't make it bad either. 

You ones that shill almost point yourselves out so well. the purpose of the UB was to wake people 

up from thousands of years of disinformation and it's very very good. To those curious ones 

capable of real thought that is. 


relax... lighten-up.. 

it is clear by now that because of all your constant 'man-bashing' & blaming 'man' for everything + 

spewing fear, lies & paranoia everywhere.. that your are still being influenced/possessed by 

reptilians or your ego is absolutely refusing to recognize the many lies you have said before & 

continue to support.. refusing to 'change' & detach from old religious beliefs systems such as 

giving your authority away to false deceptive deities like jesus/aton/esu/christ michael... again i 

remind you that earths liberation is not about these false gods & if anything tells you otherwise it is 

fooling you... 

(just because the earths astral plane has been cleaned-out with no reptilians remaining that does 

not mean they are no longer here in the physical dimension with their abilities to influence people) 


eptilians are multidimensional just like humans are... only difference is that because they 

manipulated/deactivated most of our DNA... people are locked/trapped within the 3rd dimension 

while reptilians are only able to operate within 3rd & 4th dimensions because of their low vibration 

unable to penetrate the 5th dimension... 

also the childish 'pictures' you post with your replies do not add any credibility to your already 

debunked arguments... it just shows your true intelligence & that you have become desperate as 

the house of cards collapses in front of your arrogant ego personality... 

it is time to spiritually wake-up & grow-up 

YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 2:49 PM 







Obe, 



Well, granted it doesn't fit into YOUR belief structure..........but it's the Truth! 


obe, you never have understood my belief system 

thats why you are where you are 

stuck in 3rd dimension? LOL!!?? 


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7/19/2011 2:52 PM 





What makes you think I am "stuck" in this 3rd dimension? LOL 


YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 3:24 PM 





What makes you think I am "stuck" in this 3rd dimension? LOL 


obe, 

answer this question if you can 

how will it all end? 

will some spaceship show up to save you guys or take you to another planet? 

will you just ascend out of here? 


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7/19/2011 3:28 PM 

obe, 






I would NEVER predict a future for you........that would take away your 'free agency' to create one 

for yourself! :) 


YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 3:35 PM 

obe, 










Because none of you new agers can! 

you dont have a clue because you have NO PROPHETS!! 


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7/19/2011 3:48 PM 







If you are speaking to a "new ager", then you aren't speaking to me! 

And if you were speaking to a "new ager", then I am quite sure they would have plenty of 

"prophecies" for you to chew on! lol 

YAH, if you feel that you need a "Prophet", then by all means; go out and find yourself one! (I hear 

the Mormons have a few to spare - lol) 

But as for me and mine: God will do perfectly for us!!! :) 


YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 3:57 PM 








If you are speaking to a "new ager", then you aren't speaking to me! 

And if you were speaking to a "new ager", then I am quite sure they would have plenty of 

"prophecies" for you to chew on! lol 

YAH, if you feel that you need a "Prophet", then by all means; go out and find yourself one! (I hear 

the Mormons have a few to spare - lol) 

But as for me and mine: God will do perfectly for us!!! :) 


The point is that your god will leave you in the dark without instructions? 

The living God always has prophets, ever hear of the bible? 

So if you are not with the living God then you are with the evil one 

obe, ignorance is not bliss 


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7/19/2011 4:08 PM 

The point is that your god will leave you in the dark without instructions? 

The living God always has prophets, ever hear of the bible? 

So if you are not with the living God then you are with the evil one 

obe, ignorance is not bliss 


Who said anything about "ignorance"........MY God certainly doesn't leave ME in the 

Dark........does YOURS you? lol 

And yes, your so called bible DOES have "prophets".......tons of them!(MOSTLY PROPHETS OF 

DOOM, I have noted)!!! :( 


Create a better way YAH, get off that merry-go-round......stop letting them hold out that carrot for 

you to follow! 

YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 4:15 PM 

obe, here are the events that lead to the end of this age 

























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YAH, these are YOUR events.......NOT MINE! 

Personally, I consider them to be Lucifer's blue-print for Armageddon..........Please my brother, 

consider creating a better way!!! 

And now I must go......see you later! 

YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 4:23 PM 

Daniel 12: 10 Septuagint 

Many must be tested, and thoroughly whitened, and tried with fire, and sanctified; but the 

transgressors shall transgress; and none of the transgressors shall understand; but the wise shall 

understand. 

YAHisking 


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7/19/2011 4:24 PM 


























YAH, these are YOUR events.......NOT MINE! 

Personally, I consider them to be Lucifer's blue-print for Armageddon..........Please my brother, 

consider creating a better way!!! 

And now I must go......see you later! 


hey obe, 

since when did you and candace start using these same catch phrases? 


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7/19/2011 4:30 PM 










information. 









Your criticism of the Bible does not earn you any intellectual points. 

Even if you are an dried-out, acerbic atheist, if you do not recognize that there are many passages 

in the King James version of the Bible that rank as some of the best of all English writings, then 

you are simply ignorant, stupid or blinded by your anti-religious bigotry. 

riderr 

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7/19/2011 5:40 PM 

my proof is in the science,The earths shuman freq has surley rising.ie a new ager.fact to.so many 

attacts on this thread means to me,there is much much truth here 

Love and Light 

riderr 

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7/19/2011 6:42 PM 

The facts as I see them and no one can debate what is written here,as a figment of anyones 

imagination.Its just math science and seems to connect well with the book of Urantia.Time to wake 

up folks and stop the negivtive 


[link to www.awarenessmag.com] 

Only those truly blessed would read.I do believe in urantia.I find it hard to beleive anything based 

in anything out side of love,or inside of fear 


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7/19/2011 6:48 PM 

I have read some of the Urantia book it is quite a read... and imo is packed with wisdom, insight 

and a intriguing and precise picture of how the Universe is structured. 

The level of religious brainwashing on this planet is outrageous and evil. 

It has separated man, brother against brother, what could be more unholy and ungodly than that? 

To all those who are slaves to their religius texts that have been tampered with, you have been 

denied you Oneness, if you cannot see the lost state you are in, you are destroyers of life if you 

truly believe you are better than another because of the religion you have adopted or been born 

into. 

The evil ones have succeeded with you unfortunately. 

As far as I can gather The Urantia book is not a religious book, it does not demand religious ritual 

or behaviour, it is wisdom and information on our origin. 

There are Universal Laws and one important is Thou shall not Kill, simple and intelligent. 

TrumpetBlast 

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understand. 


2. Timothy 4:2-5 (KJV) 

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all 

longsuffering and doctrine. 

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall 

they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of 

thy ministry. 


2 Peter 2:1-6 (New King James Version) 

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers 

among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought 

them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 

2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be 

blasphemed. 

3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has 

not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. 

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them 

into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 

5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of 

righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 

6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, 

making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly 

Revelation 22:6-21 (KJV) 

6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets 

sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. 

7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. 

8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to 

worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 

9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the 

prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. 

0 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is 

righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his 

work shall be. 

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and 

may enter in through the gates into the city. 

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and 

whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and 

the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is 

athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man 

shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take 

away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written 

in this book. 

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord 

Jesus. 

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. 

Pray for them, for they are highly misled by all these blasphemies, false doctrines and teachings of 

demons. Hopefully they come to repentance during the time of tribulation. 




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Trumpet Blast me and my team are NOT mislead. Enough. And revelations has lots of errors in it. 

It was deliberately corrupted. 

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Shall not kill!yet religion has spilled the blood.Good post 

Univeral law.the crusades must stop.Churched that gather and speak of nothing must stop.Love 

must be the rule. 

Never been in any church,that asked the young to refrain from use of fluoride.Never.This is a 

smack in the face to all who follow this book and those which take a leadership role.Pat 


Robertson.Joyce Meyer,Jimmy Swaggert.And the list goes on and on of the zionist agenda 

:) LOVE 

YAHisking 


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understand. 


2. Timothy 4:2-5 (KJV) 

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all 

longsuffering and doctrine. 

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall 

they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of 

thy ministry. 

2 Peter 2:1-6 (New King James Version) 

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers 

among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought 

them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 

2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be 

blasphemed. 

3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has 

not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. 

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them 

into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 

5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of 

righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 

6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, 

making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly 

Revelation 22:6-21 (KJV) 

6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets 

sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. 

7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. 

8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to 


worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 

9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the 

prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. 

0 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is 

righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his 

work shall be. 

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and 

may enter in through the gates into the city. 

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and 

whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 

16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and 

the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is 

athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man 

shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take 

away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written 

in this book. 

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord 

Jesus. 

21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. 

Pray for them, for they are highly misled by all these blasphemies, false doctrines and teachings of 

demons. Hopefully they come to repentance during the time of tribulation. 

Quoting: TrumpetBlast 

Yes Brother, 

you are correct, thanks for the words of spirit knowledge 

I AM praying for them, and also exposing their deception 

I will silence the scoffers when it is within my reach 

Blessings my Brother, in the name of Yahushua HaMashiach!! 

Every knee will bow and mine exedingly 

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This is coming from the father of all lies! 

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Shall not kill!yet religion has spilled the blood.Good post 

Univeral law.the crusades must stop.Churched that gather and speak of nothing must stop.Love 

must be the rule. 

Never been in any church,that asked the young to refrain from use of fluoride.Never.This is a 

smack in the face to all who follow this book and those which take a leadership role.Pat 


Robertson.Joyce Meyer,Jimmy Swaggert.And the list goes on and on of the zionist agenda 

:) LOVE 


This is why the churches of men will all fall and crumble to the ground 

They also don't speak against abortion, this is great blasphemy to the Lord!! 

They will not have protection from the coming calamity 

TrumpetBlast 

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The Days of the Martyred Prophets are at an End 

6/25/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior - The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy, For All 

Those Who Have Ears to Hear 

Thus says The Lord: The days of the martyred prophets are over! The Day of The Lord is here! 

The anger of The Almighty is put on open display! And the might of The Holy One shall be made 

fully known! Therefore, sing amen to The Holy One of Israel, all you, My elect! Bow down and give 

Me perfect praise, all you, My holy ones! Break forth into singing, all you, My chosen!... PRAISE 

YOUR KING! 

Peoples of the Earth, I am come down!... And I have searched. I have went from house to house, 

and peered into every temple, that I might behold the ways of man, that I may look upon his works, 

and discern his heart and know his mind... For I am The Lord, and I love judgment! 

Justice shall be poured out and punishment sent down! For I am The God of Judgment, The God 

of Recompense! Behold! The God of Vengeance is risen up in His fierce anger! And is come down 

in His overflowing indignation!... TO REPAY! TO TAKE VENGEANCE ON ALL HIS ENEMIES!... 

AMEN AND AMEN! 

Let it be done, let it come to pass quickly... 

With great swiftness let wrath overflow, 

Until evil is swept away and the wickedness of men is wiped clean!... 

Until every tower crumbles and every city is consumed with fire! 

Until I have utterly destroyed all the works of man!... 

UNTIL I HAVE BLOTTED OUT THE KINGDOMS OF MEN! 


Let their temples come down with a great crash! 

And let every religion be crushed beneath the weight of their idols! 

Let them pine away in their lies, and waste away in their deceptions!... 

UNTIL THEY ARE NO MORE! 

I call to the prophets of every religion, to every prophet of the wicked one, to every soothsayer and 

prognosticator, to every scoffer and evil man who seek to harm My anointed, even to every person 

who plots ill will in their hearts against My messengers, come forward and fight against My 

witnesses! COME OUT AND FIGHT AGAINST ME!... That I may cut you down and purge you 

from your places, that you may be no more before My face!... Behold, I shall make of you a great 

slaughter! 

Yes, come and make plans and devise your evil schemes! And come and strike at My prophets 

that you might kill them and do them great harm! For the days of the martyred prophets are at an 

end! And The God of Recompense is here! Hurry now! Come forward!... That I may strike you 

down where you stand, that I may take your life from you in a moment, when you come out to kill 

My messengers!... That I may litter the streets with your rotting corpses! Says The Lord God. 

Thus shall the prophets of The Lord be made plain, 

And the prophets of the wicked one be exposed! 

For the false prophets shall become rotting corpses 

In every land, scattered across every nation! 

Yet the prophets of The Lord shall march free, undaunted... 

Behold, they shall fly! 

They shall be given eagle‟s wings! 

Lo, the strength of Samson shall be theirs! 

And the power of The Lord shall proceed from their nostrils! 

The word of The Lord shall blow mightily in all the earth! 

For I have put My words in their mouths!... 

And I shall dwell in them fully! 

Says YahuShua-YaHuWaH! 

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well I am unpinning this thread, the thread killers have been most successful. Continue on. 



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Best idea so far. 


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This is coming from the father of all lies! 


not everyone has eyes to see or ears to hear. grieve for those and pray. 

riderr 

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to much fear nip..Love ya 

riderr 

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not in your posts,others.Thanks for your enlightenment 

riderr 

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not in your posts,others.Thanks for your enlightenment 


LIGHT :) 

ETemissary 

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Incredible information just released: 

[link to www.youtube.com] 

YAHisking 


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Run candace run 

I know you cant stand the spirit of the living God! 

Take your deception somewhere else 

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Revelations? What book is that Candace? It's called the book of REVELATION. 

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YAHisking 


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candace will go into default trolling mode now..... 

To much bad exposure to her agenda today 

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You are an abortion, you defile the book with your made up tales and characters. Aton, Candace, 

Salusa, you divine for money, pride and ego. The teaching mission was influenced by the CIA and 

Waldrop, it stopped the serious growth of the Urantia Book. Fundementalist readers signed a 

document against the teaching mission. Even members of the teaching mission have declared it 

fraud on UBRON. Sanada,??? the galactic federation???, you ignorant person grew out of the 

exploited basic teachings of the book, and impatient misguided readers, decided to turn it into 

profit. The Urantia book doesn't kill the bible. It corrects its vulnerabilities. I ask whoever reads this 

person, pretending to know or have anything to do with the Urantia Book, The Urantia Foundation, 

or the Urantia fellowship, know that he/she/it is a fraud. He/she/it has combined some of the 

teachings with a lot of other flotsum floating out there on the internet. Don't believe a word she 

says or as they say verify. I know of what I speak and recently resigned as Hospitality Chairman of 

the First Urantia Society of Los Angeles. Read the book it is online at Truthbook and has a search 

engine, the first papers I read were the Adam and Eve papers, the second the Lucifer Rebellion, 

Since the bible as the main basis for comparision it is easier to absorb the extremely huge concept 

of god, the central and superuniverses, the history of Urantia the earth, and the life of Jesus Christ 


how he lived and fought the same battles we do. It is not one book against the other it is both used 

to fight the spiritual battle still being fought on earth and in the heavens. 


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Everyone is 'chosen' to have their eyes and hearts open to the truth. It is our own free will for us to 

actually see and feel! And I communicate with Him in mind and heart. I believe what I receive in 

return is sort of like telepathy! 



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Hurchel, I am going to make something clear here, probably again. I know these ones personally, I 

go to craft for very high level meetings. And don't even associate ME with the SaLuSa and most 

other such material on the NET, I am NOT a CIA agent. SaLuSA is actually a real individual, but 

she is no longer working with Mike since he went CIA. I am associated with exactly ZERO of those 

various sites out. Most ARE CIA. You will not find this crap ever posted by me on my website and I 

do not allow it on my forum. 

The UB did not reveal everything. Take or leave it about me, your choice but I do know of what I 

speak. I happen to own a personal well marked copy which I purchased many years ago on 

advice of my main guide. I know it so well I don't often have to use a search engine. I was guided 

to what I do, starting intensely in 1998. You are the one who is ignorant here. 

I have made it clear that I do know the teaching mission is heavily infiltrated and I am not part of it 

in any way anymore. Not that I ever was, I simply posted some material I liked, but I attend no 

study groups, nor do I attend the TR stuff. I have seen one TR session and that one was 

fraudulent, as the channel had gone CIA. 

the site www.monjoronson.com has been pretty much fully taken over and is puttng out shit, and 

since I do know what's going on, I know what the shit it. 

YOu can put your judgement of what I do aside, because you have never met me, nor do you walk 

in my shoes. I know what I AM and my purpose here. If you are borrowing crap from other posters, 

you can accept it or not. but I am not a NEW AGER and I do exactly nothing in the NEW AGE 

genra out there. 

My organization, Jews_are_great, is the 2nd coming organization. I am in partnership with 

MICHAEL of NEBADON himself. I have MET HIM PERSONALLY, as to be active on this planet, 

he is again embodied. Spirit Beings are not visible to the eyes of folks here, so he has returned 

with a form that IS visible. 

As I said I attend meetings aboard craft which are FROM Nebadon dear one, for the planning of all 

this stuff. I have a good sized earth team and it will get a lot bigger during the period of stasis. 

This team will be providing a lot of what the Adam and Eve mission did not accomplish. That is 

part of the concept of the correcting Time. 

You can go to page 626 of paper 55 about the Spheres of Light and life. REAd about how planets 

in these golden ages, about the size of Urantia, have 100 subadministrative centers. These 

normally are the work of the Adam and Eves over the long time. MY team is going to have these, 

there will be between 50 and 100 after stasis. And they will be asscoiated with many universities 

as part of this. 

The first morontial temple is already planned. We will not be in Light and Life when we come back 

from stasis, but there will be a small temple built for the use of those mostly on my team for the 

visualization of higher personalities. It's location is already chosen. We will have at our disposal 

the use of 500 antigravity craft which are already constructed to use for transportation of goods 

and the like, because after stasis there will exactly zero planes on this planet, we are not going to 

allow the corruption again of the cleansed atmosphere. 


The plans are huge and intense. The dark ones are going to be removed in total before much 

longer, there will be a teaching period and then the stasis. Then we rebuild this world. I hope you 

have chosen to be one of the roughly 1 billion who will be on the planet when we wake this world 

up again, who get to continue their journey. 

but don't you or anyone else go trashing WHO I AM based on RUMOR. There are many here on 

GLP that do that on purpose. This is the "logo" of my organization. During stasis we will get a 

professional programmer to make it look better. When we come back from stasis, all the regional 

areas will be fully linked thru the Internet. The plan is massive and a book like the UB was not 

given to a world that would face total destruction. It is masterful. But it is not COMPLETE. But it's a 

marvelous foundation for the 5d or more consciousness level folks who will be incarnating here as 

those who are completely their ascension leave and higher students come. The logo below is the 

the idea of Michael of Nebadon. You will see the 3 concentric circles in it, and sacred circle of 

Infinity, and the 8 point star. 

Those on this team are ordained by him personally. All ordained will well the Christic circle in gold 

on chains around their neck. The christic circle was given to AH for use way back in 2003. We 

went public with our program n 2005. this has been long planned. it is as I say, and again, readers 

here can take it or leave it, but they cannot negate it. This massive program of regeneration of the 

planet IS going to happen. 



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Sorry to hear that. You are one of the few who has a mind and knows how to use it. 

Even so, you do well not to waste your time on mental midgets. 

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It is just so ridiculously stupid. It is the most basic, rehashed principles of every new age religion. It 

reminds me of when Cartman started a Christian music band just to make money. 

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Hurchel, I am going to make something clear here, probably again. I know these ones personally, I 

go to craft for very high level meetings. And don't even associate ME with the SaLuSa and most 

other such material on the NET, I am NOT a CIA agent. SaLuSA is actually a real individual, but 

she is no longer working with Mike since he went CIA. I am associated with exactly ZERO of those 

various sites out. Most ARE CIA. You will not find this crap ever posted by me on my website and I 

do not allow it on my forum. 

The UB did not reveal everything. Take or leave it about me, your choice but I do know of what I 

speak. I happen to own a personal well marked copy which I purchased many years ago on 

advice of my main guide. I know it so well I don't often have to use a search engine. I was guided 

to what I do, starting intensely in 1998. You are the one who is ignorant here. 

I have made it clear that I do know the teaching mission is heavily infiltrated and I am not part of it 

in any way anymore. Not that I ever was, I simply posted some material I liked, but I attend no 

study groups, nor do I attend the TR stuff. I have seen one TR session and that one was 

fraudulent, as the channel had gone CIA. 

the site www.monjoronson.com has been pretty much fully taken over and is puttng out shit, and 

since I do know what's going on, I know what the shit it. 

YOu can put your judgement of what I do aside, because you have never met me, nor do you walk 

in my shoes. I know what I AM and my purpose here. If you are borrowing crap from other posters, 

you can accept it or not. but I am not a NEW AGER and I do exactly nothing in the NEW AGE 

genra out there. 


There you go you illustrate my point, it is all you, you, you, the subject is the Urantia book, not you. 

I have three worn out marked books, and appreciate it is now online for people that want to read it 

and make up their own minds. In the old days you really had to like someone to lend them your 

blue book. Now I don't have to use the search engine, but it is easier to copy and paste the exact 

words of the book, to answer a question or retort. This is for people who question or ridicule and 

have not read the book. I saw this question and read it and low and behold here you are with your 

own "I am on the craft, 4d density 5th density, instructions to the unread and easily beguiled. 

Michael is here and Esau sanada, and claiming michael of nebadon is the author of the phoenix 

journals" 

You have a mental problem, you cannot remember what you wrote, or what you said, you have no 

continuity. you turn on a dime, and mimic other people and claim you know personally. You like to 

torture and tease Christians, stop this, quote the book and that is all, refer people to the book and 

let them make up their own mind. We are not a religion, and are a fellowhip of like minded 

believers, we have study groups and rememberance suppers. The only way to ascend is through 

death and thank god we are allowed the chance at eternal life even though lucifer claimed we 

were animals and not worthy of ascension. There is no mother ship coming to rescue us, 

Caligastia is still here and has a website. He is the planetary prince and the lucifer rebellion has 

not been adjudicated, the meaning of pentecost was the brstowal of the sprit of truth on all men to 


protect the feeble minded from being indwelt against their will. But I warn you, you go back and re 

read all your writings and see what you are doing, you are shaming the book not helping. I am not 

interested in you personally, I assure you as a Urantian I would turn my back on you, the book and 

the individual are all that matters. Not you, not your ego, not your happiness and unbearable 

lightness of made up insanity. You are hurting the credibility of the book, you are one of the 

reasons people are laughing at the book. The book finds the people it wants, the people meant for 

the book cannot put it down. People who know God do not have to fight about God. What do you 

think the personalities that composed the individual papers in the book think of you, ad libbing and 

adding untruths to the book bestowed upon us lucky enough to comprehend it? "Humans never 

learn" and "the terrible killing has just begun". 



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you are misinformed. I am involved deeply with the UB in a variety of ways and if you notice, I did 

post in response to questions asked. You have openly accused ME of stuff that is incorrect and I 

will defend Michael of Nebadon's work of which I AM his leader ON this plane. That you don't 

understand is not my problem and it does not negate this work. 

Much of our education is an extension of the Urantia Book. Because he has returned. As I said, 

you can take or leave it, but your beliefs do not invalidate OUR WORK on this planet. Michael has 

been teaching on this plane for 30 plus years now, personally. And it is important to all readers of 

the UB to know that he was returned and is busy, so just what is YOUR PROBLEM with that? I do 

happen to know what I do, I built this organization, the ground portion of it. There are others 

chosen who will serve the 50 to 100 subadministrative centers that are not yet known to me, but 

we have about 10 that are known and on my team at this time. Michael did NOT come here to just 

have a nice little life, he came here to start the solution of the problems of this world and other 

involved in the REbellion. I know a great deal of information that is NOT in the UB because you 

don't give THUGS advanced notice. 

I have been to the supposed Caligastia website, it is fraudulent. He is not here. He was deposed 

and picked up at some point also returned for judgement. The Lucifer Rebellion has been 

adjudicated, including all its' main principles. Lucifer chose Uncreation, Satan chose additional 

rehabilitation, after being removed from here in the 1930's. Caligastia's mind continued to fall apart 

and he is still in custody pending this issue of his highly fractured mind which causes difficulty in 

determining the final outcome of the case. 

Those that betray to this level are never put back in such positions again. I am a Mighty 

Messenger, I was born first in Nebadon long ago, Michael is my creator father, and I do know 

more than a little about the administration of worlds like this and I know a lot of detail we have 

never released publicly abut what is going on with this world. I am in training here for higher 


administration in preparation of the outer space regions which will bear life. 

I have NEVER put out that there is a "mother ship" going to do whatever you said it is doing. You 

have been copying trash about me from the Internet, it's rather obvious. Ashtar Command is 

REAL, it associated with Orvonton and it's main purpose IS to evacuate planets in big doo doo. It 

will do so when that becomes necessary. In fact it does periodically in various areas, it did some 

during he recent Japanese Tsunami. The New Jerusalem IS the Command Craft of Ashtar 

Command, and even the UB mentions when planets are to undergo great destruction, those 

salvable are removed to other worlds. Now hoe on earth is that done, except by CRAFT? To many 

UB readers tend to believe still in the magic wand theories of God. 

I was guided to the UB in either 1995 or 96. I did not buy it at that time, and read portions every 

time I went to the book store. I finally found small funds to purchase in 2001. I continue to read this 

copy. It full of notes, bookmarks and the like. I did not buy the cheap copy, I bought one of the 

better quality ones. It is sitting beside me now. 

I was commissioned by Michael fully in 2003 and my organization put into place for this purpose 

prior to then. I am directly en-circuited with him. I assume you know the meaning of that word 

since you are a UB reader. 

Well I just reread all of your commentary and you are not who you pretend to be, by your fruits. 

You have come on purpose to defame this project. By the way, I happen to KNOW one of the 

Mighty Messengers who wrote 3 of the papers in the UB. She has been bastardized by the CIA on 

new age sites, she is Skekhmet. She does not command Nibiru et all, or any of that silly stuff. She 

wrote papers 22, 28 and 30. Alcyone her mate wrote several of the others and I have met him too. 

By your fruits you are bastardinzing our work. And by the way, this is a complex planet and the 

plans do change. The thugs were offered much and turned it all down. so other things were 

decided upon. I have review my work many times, it is as it should be and I have no issues with it. 

I suggest you stop copying what other write about me and reproduce it here. In fact many you are 

the one who wrote it and spread? Only you know. 

There are several excellent telepaths all chosen by Michael on this team. I am not the only one. 


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