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250 Appendix<br />

very anxious to be able to debate here <strong>and</strong> now <strong>the</strong> question of Iran, as soon<br />

as Le Matin will give me <strong>the</strong> opportunity. Blanchot 114 teaches that criticism<br />

begins with attention, good demeanor, <strong>and</strong> generosity.<br />

Iran: The Spirit of a World without Spirit<br />

This conversation with Foucault originally appeared as <strong>the</strong> appendix to Claire Briere <strong>and</strong><br />

Pierre Blanchet, Iran: la <strong>revolution</strong> au nom de Dieu (227-41), first published in March<br />

1979. Briere <strong>and</strong> Blanchet were <strong>the</strong> Iran correspondents of Liberation, <strong>the</strong> leftist Paris<br />

newspaper. Their book is one of <strong>the</strong> more uncritical accounts of Iran's Islamic Revolution.<br />

CLAIRE BRIERE: Could we begin with <strong>the</strong> simplest question? Like a lot of<br />

o<strong>the</strong>rs, like you, I have been fascinated by what happened in Iran. Why?<br />

MICHEL FOUCAULT: I would like to go back at once to ano<strong>the</strong>r, perhaps<br />

less important question, but one that may provide a way in: What is it about<br />

what has happened in Iran that a whole lot of people, on <strong>the</strong> left <strong>and</strong> on<br />

<strong>the</strong> right, find somewhat irritating? The Iran affair <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> way in which it<br />

has taken place have not aroused <strong>the</strong> same kind of untroubled sympathy as<br />

Portugal, 115 for example, or Nicaragua. I'm not saying that Nicaragua, in <strong>the</strong><br />

middle of summer, at a time when people are tanning <strong>the</strong>mselves in <strong>the</strong> sun,<br />

aroused a great deal of interest, but in <strong>the</strong> case of Iran, I soon felt a small,<br />

epidermic reaction that was not one of immediate sympathy. To take an ex­<br />

ample: There was this journalist you know very well. At Tehran she wrote<br />

an article that was published in Paris <strong>and</strong>, in <strong>the</strong> last sentence, in which she<br />

spoke of <strong>the</strong> Islamic revolt, she found that <strong>the</strong> adjective "fanatic, " which she<br />

had certainly not written, had been crudely added. This strikes me as being<br />

fairly typical of <strong>the</strong> irritations that <strong>the</strong> Iranian movement has provoked.<br />

PIERRE BLANCHET: There are several possible attitudes to Iran. There's<br />

<strong>the</strong> attitude of <strong>the</strong> classic, orthodox, extreme left. I'd cite above all <strong>the</strong> Com­<br />

munist League, l lG which supports Iran <strong>and</strong> <strong>the</strong> whole of <strong>the</strong> extreme left,<br />

various Marxist-Leninist groups, which say <strong>the</strong>y are religious rebels, but that<br />

doesn't really matter. Religion is only a shield. Therefore we can support <strong>the</strong>m<br />

unhesitatingly; it is a classic anti-imperialist struggle, like that in Vietnam,<br />

led by a religious man, Khomeini, but one who might be a Marxist-Leninist.<br />

To read L'Humanite, one might think that <strong>the</strong> PC [Communist Party) had<br />

<strong>the</strong> same attitude as <strong>the</strong> LCR [Trotskyist Revolutionary Communist League).<br />

On <strong>the</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r h<strong>and</strong>, <strong>the</strong> attitude of <strong>the</strong> more moderate left, whe<strong>the</strong>r of <strong>the</strong><br />

PS [Socialist Party) or that of <strong>the</strong> more marginal left around <strong>the</strong> newspaper<br />

Liberation, is one of irritation from <strong>the</strong> outset. They would say more or less

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