Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

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Did he do everyth<strong>in</strong>g he could under the circumstances to br<strong>in</strong>g
heat back to the facility?
_Ms. HOPPER. Well, we were work<strong>in</strong>g on it. He would always do it
when. you asked him, or suggested it, and lie never said, I won't do it,
but he had to wait until I came up and told him to do it.
I should not have to tell him to put an extra blanket on a cold
person.
Mr. I-IALAMAND)ARIS. I would like to have Dr. Bergman's response to
that question when he testifies.
Thank you.
Mr. LEWVIN. I hate to <strong>in</strong>terrupt at this po<strong>in</strong>t, but might I rem<strong>in</strong>d the
chairman that these witnesses were never sworn.
Senator Moss. I am glad you thought of that.
If you would like, I will put them under oath right now.
Mr. LEWIN-. I believe that s<strong>in</strong>ce the counsel to the committee has
asked questions that specifically directed themselves to a particular
person at a particular time, I believe that these witnesses should be
no different than any other witnesses appear<strong>in</strong>g before this committee,
and who would testify under pa<strong>in</strong>s of perjury.
Senator Moss. Would each of you stand and raise your right hand?
Do you swear that the testimony that you have given to this committee
is and will be the truth, the whole truth, and noth<strong>in</strong>g but the
truth, so help you God?
[Whereupon, Ms. Irene Jarvis, Ms. Anastasia Hopper, and Dr. Jay
Dobk<strong>in</strong> answered <strong>in</strong> the affirmative.]
Senator Moss. All right. You do recognize that your oath <strong>in</strong>dicates
that your past testimony, too, is <strong>in</strong>cluded, so if there is anyth<strong>in</strong>g you
want to change, you are given an opportunity to do so at this time.
Now, I th<strong>in</strong>k Congressmnan. Koch has a question.
CongressIuIani KoCi. Thank you, Senator.
Ms. Hopper, I would like to ask several questions, along the l<strong>in</strong>es
of <strong>in</strong>quiry, which you opened with respect to the Towers Nurs<strong>in</strong>g
Home.
Aga<strong>in</strong>, I would like to ask you this. At the time you made your
<strong>in</strong>spection of the Towers Nurs<strong>in</strong>g Home, which I believe took place
<strong>in</strong> February of 1971-
Ms. HOPPER. Yes.
Congressman Kocii. By whom were you employed?
Ms. HOPPER. The department of health.
Congressman KOCH. And you testified that at some po<strong>in</strong>t you were directed
not to visit these homes except on announced visits, and then
only dur<strong>in</strong>g the day, if I understood you correctly, is that correct?
Ms. HOPPER. No; because I had moved from the position before that.
Congressman KOCH. So that you were never directed to do that?
MS. HOPPER. No.
Congressman Koci-y. How did that come to your attention?
Ms. HOPPER. Well, I was special assistant, which would seem to be a
rather ludicrous job, and I was asked to write the guidel<strong>in</strong>es and write
the checklists, and I was free to do what I wanted, and I used to go up
and talk to them.
Congressman Koci-i. When did you leave the unit?