Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
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MS. JARVIS. Yes; I am.<br />
Senator Moss. To what extent did you f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d registered nurses <strong>on</strong><br />
duty <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the homes you <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>spected? Was it usual or unusual?<br />
Ms. TJARVIS. You always found at least <strong>on</strong>e registered nurse, depend<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g<br />
<strong>on</strong> the size of the home.<br />
I cannot say I went <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> and never found a registered nurse dur<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g<br />
the week, but they were not always the number of registered nurses<br />
that were required by the New York City Nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g Home Code.<br />
Senator Moss. What do they require?<br />
MS. JARVIS. The New York City Nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g Home Code requires that<br />
there be 2 registered nurses for the first 60 patients, 1 registered nurse<br />
for every 60 patients thereafter; it requires that there be 2 licensed<br />
practical nurses for 20 patients, and 1 for every 20 thereafter, and 1<br />
aide for every 5 patients.<br />
Senator Moss. Did you f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d a c<strong>on</strong>siderable variati<strong>on</strong> from that<br />
staff<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g requirement?<br />
MS. JARVIS. Not really, because we felt that there was someth<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g<br />
go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g <strong>on</strong>, but it is hard to put a f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ger <strong>on</strong>.<br />
You <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>sist that they send you a schedule of their nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g staff for<br />
the previous m<strong>on</strong>th. It is always just what the code requires, but it<br />
seems almost impossible that every s<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>gle day you just meet the code<br />
requirements.<br />
Senator Moss. When you were <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>structed no l<strong>on</strong>ger to visit nights,<br />
you suspect that maybe they were not there at night is <strong>on</strong>e of the<br />
reas<strong>on</strong>s?<br />
Ms. JARvIs. Yes, I d<strong>on</strong>'t know if that was the reas<strong>on</strong> for the nights,<br />
but I would suspect there were a lot of the th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>gs happen<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g at night<br />
that did not happen when we made our visits.<br />
Senator Moss. We may want to come back to you! but I would like to<br />
hear from Ms. Hopper now, and then we may have some more<br />
questi<strong>on</strong>s.<br />
You may proceed, if you will, Ms. Hopper.<br />
STATEMENT OF ANASTASIA HOPPER, FORMER CHIEF, CITY OF<br />
NEW YORK INSTITUTIONAL REVIEW SERVICE<br />
Ms. HOPPER. I am a registered nurse also, over 40 years, and I have<br />
had c<strong>on</strong>siderable experience both as a sanitarian, and I spent time with<br />
the State department of social welfare.<br />
I was with the <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>al review service for approximately 7 years.<br />
I went there as a supervisor, and became assistant chief, and then chief<br />
of the divisi<strong>on</strong>.<br />
I stayed <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> that positi<strong>on</strong> until approximately 1971, when it was taken<br />
over by the department of health, from the department of hospitals.<br />
The department of health gave me another positi<strong>on</strong>, so that the<br />
special assistant was not very much of anyth<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g, partly because I th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>k<br />
they wanted to put some<strong>on</strong>e else <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>, because the policymakers did not<br />
approve of what I wanted.<br />
We had to have approximately 35 <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>spectors under us to do the<br />
<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>s that was covered by at least a third or more, the vacancies<br />
were not filled. and people were tak<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g special assignments and not<br />
replaced, and the night <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>specti<strong>on</strong>s were detailed, and we went <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>, and<br />
we tried.