Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
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I have here under liabilities, <strong>on</strong>e of the homes, this is C, has accrued<br />
taxes and other expenses relat<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g to payroll of $227,631.<br />
Unless that m<strong>on</strong>ey is <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> a bank somewhere, the U.S. Government<br />
which had paid this nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g home, will not get the payroll taxes. This<br />
is a clear <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>dicati<strong>on</strong>.<br />
We have <strong>on</strong>e home which has $250,000 of accrued taxes and other<br />
expenses. That <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>cidentally is a catchall.<br />
Mr. HALAINAN-DARIs. What you are suggest<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g is that you have a<br />
large amount of rent that is given away, that is a large amount of<br />
salaries, taxes, or loans to related parties, so much so, that you w<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d<br />
up with a negative equity?<br />
Mr. LEE. Yes, sir.<br />
Mr. HALAMANTDARIS. And are there no c<strong>on</strong>trols <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the State of New<br />
York?<br />
Mr. LEE. I believe there is some c<strong>on</strong>trol, but I believe they are <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>adequately<br />
m<strong>on</strong>itored or policed. I d<strong>on</strong>'t believe that is the fault of<br />
the auditors. I th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>k it is the fault of the system, which does not provide<br />
sufficient audit<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g.<br />
Senator Moss. Would not the State department of health be c<strong>on</strong>cerned<br />
about homes that are go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g to be broke and suddenly they have<br />
no place for their patients?<br />
Mr. LEE. Senator Moss, they have not g<strong>on</strong>e broke.<br />
Senator Moss. They are not go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g broke?<br />
Mr. LEE. They are always-broke, but they are not go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g out of<br />
bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess.<br />
Mr. HALA]tANDARIS. Do you have another chart.?<br />
Mr. LEE. Yes, sir; I do. You asked me if there are problems here<br />
<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>herent <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> this type of th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g, and you asked me, why would somebody<br />
buy a bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess of this sort.<br />
This chart represents the housekeep<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g costs per bed per week for<br />
a variety of nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g homes.<br />
There are 15 homes <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> this particular sample, and we have grouped<br />
them <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>to 3 homes <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 50- to 100-bed category, 3 homes <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the<br />
100- to 150-bed category, three <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 1550 to 200, and so forth.<br />
You would th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>k <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> terms of housekeep<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g costs per bed per week,<br />
there would be some ec<strong>on</strong>omv of scale between a 40-bed home and a<br />
250- or 350-bed home.<br />
By ec<strong>on</strong>omy of scale, I simply mean it should cost less per bed per<br />
week, <strong>on</strong> a per-bed, per-week basis, to do the housekeep<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g and ma<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>tenance<br />
around a home that has 300 beds, <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stead of around a home<br />
that has 50 beds.<br />
However. <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> this case we found <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 50- to 100-bed group. <strong>on</strong>e home<br />
has a cost of per bed per week of $19.50, and another <strong>on</strong>e has a cost<br />
of per bed per week of $3.50. a variati<strong>on</strong> of roughly 400 percent.<br />
We f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 100- to 150-bed home, <strong>on</strong>e home has a cost of $23 per<br />
bed per week. a sec<strong>on</strong>d home, at the bottom end of the spectrum, has a<br />
cost of approximately $6.75 per week, aga<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>, a 300- to 400-percent variati<strong>on</strong>.<br />
all with<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the same group<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g.<br />
We f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> a group of 150 to 200 beds, a cost of $21.50 per bed per<br />
wveek, versus a cost of $12 and change, roughly <strong>on</strong>ly a 90-percent difference.<br />
That is not too serious, of course.