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Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

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I have here under liabilities, <strong>on</strong>e of the homes, this is C, has accrued<br />

taxes and other expenses relat<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g to payroll of $227,631.<br />

Unless that m<strong>on</strong>ey is <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> a bank somewhere, the U.S. Government<br />

which had paid this nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g home, will not get the payroll taxes. This<br />

is a clear <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>dicati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

We have <strong>on</strong>e home which has $250,000 of accrued taxes and other<br />

expenses. That <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>cidentally is a catchall.<br />

Mr. HALAINAN-DARIs. What you are suggest<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g is that you have a<br />

large amount of rent that is given away, that is a large amount of<br />

salaries, taxes, or loans to related parties, so much so, that you w<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d<br />

up with a negative equity?<br />

Mr. LEE. Yes, sir.<br />

Mr. HALAMANTDARIS. And are there no c<strong>on</strong>trols <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the State of New<br />

York?<br />

Mr. LEE. I believe there is some c<strong>on</strong>trol, but I believe they are <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>adequately<br />

m<strong>on</strong>itored or policed. I d<strong>on</strong>'t believe that is the fault of<br />

the auditors. I th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>k it is the fault of the system, which does not provide<br />

sufficient audit<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g.<br />

Senator Moss. Would not the State department of health be c<strong>on</strong>cerned<br />

about homes that are go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g to be broke and suddenly they have<br />

no place for their patients?<br />

Mr. LEE. Senator Moss, they have not g<strong>on</strong>e broke.<br />

Senator Moss. They are not go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g broke?<br />

Mr. LEE. They are always-broke, but they are not go<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g out of<br />

bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess.<br />

Mr. HALA]tANDARIS. Do you have another chart.?<br />

Mr. LEE. Yes, sir; I do. You asked me if there are problems here<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>herent <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> this type of th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g, and you asked me, why would somebody<br />

buy a bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess of this sort.<br />

This chart represents the housekeep<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g costs per bed per week for<br />

a variety of nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g homes.<br />

There are 15 homes <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> this particular sample, and we have grouped<br />

them <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>to 3 homes <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 50- to 100-bed category, 3 homes <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the<br />

100- to 150-bed category, three <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 1550 to 200, and so forth.<br />

You would th<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>k <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> terms of housekeep<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g costs per bed per week,<br />

there would be some ec<strong>on</strong>omv of scale between a 40-bed home and a<br />

250- or 350-bed home.<br />

By ec<strong>on</strong>omy of scale, I simply mean it should cost less per bed per<br />

week, <strong>on</strong> a per-bed, per-week basis, to do the housekeep<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g and ma<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>tenance<br />

around a home that has 300 beds, <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stead of around a home<br />

that has 50 beds.<br />

However. <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> this case we found <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 50- to 100-bed group. <strong>on</strong>e home<br />

has a cost of per bed per week of $19.50, and another <strong>on</strong>e has a cost<br />

of per bed per week of $3.50. a variati<strong>on</strong> of roughly 400 percent.<br />

We f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the 100- to 150-bed home, <strong>on</strong>e home has a cost of $23 per<br />

bed per week. a sec<strong>on</strong>d home, at the bottom end of the spectrum, has a<br />

cost of approximately $6.75 per week, aga<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>, a 300- to 400-percent variati<strong>on</strong>.<br />

all with<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the same group<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g.<br />

We f<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>d <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> a group of 150 to 200 beds, a cost of $21.50 per bed per<br />

wveek, versus a cost of $12 and change, roughly <strong>on</strong>ly a 90-percent difference.<br />

That is not too serious, of course.

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