Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging Trends in Long-Term Care - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging
2893 cause they are illogical, it is very difficult to expla
2894 It is technically at the actual average equity dur
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- Page 5 and 6: 2874 First. Our Nation and our Fede
- Page 7 and 8: 2876 Senator Domenici, of New Mexic
- Page 9 and 10: 2878 (5) Dealings
- Page 11 and 12: 88o Did we leave any out? Mr. HoMFI
- Page 13 and 14: 2882 Mr. HALAMIANDARIS. May we have
- Page 15 and 16: 2884 designed to secure publicity,
- Page 17 and 18: 2886 down at that poin</str
- Page 19 and 20: 2888 [The letter referred to above
- Page 21 and 22: - HE-2 HE-2 OPERATOR'S STATEMENT OF
- Page 23: 2892 Senator Mloss. Now, equity, is
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- Page 29 and 30: 2897 A year later, she sold it back
- Page 31 and 32: 2899 The cost of the sale was $246,
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- Page 39 and 40: 2907 Senator Moss. I wonder if, s<s
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- Page 47 and 48: 2915 Senator Moss. Is that when it
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- Page 51 and 52: 2919 MS. JARVIS. Yes; I am. Senator
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- Page 57 and 58: 2925 I do feel that bed rest and th
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- Page 73 and 74: 2941 Senator Moss. Thank you. I wou
2893<br />
cause they are illogical, it is very difficult to expla<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> them and have<br />
anybody make any sense out of them. It is simply the way the system<br />
is operated.<br />
There are two rentals that we found. There is the imputed rent, and<br />
there is the maximum rent.<br />
The imputed rent is used <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> a n<strong>on</strong>-armi's-length agreement. That is<br />
where you owned the nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g home, and you rented it to yourself. Let<br />
us say you have a corporati<strong>on</strong>, and you rent the nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g home to yourself,<br />
and you run it as a bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess.<br />
That would be the n<strong>on</strong>-arm's-length agreement, and that would be<br />
the imputed rental.<br />
The maximum rental is what is known as the arm's-length agreement,<br />
which is an agreement supposedly between strangers; however,<br />
accord<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g to the State department of health def<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>iti<strong>on</strong> of a n<strong>on</strong>-arm'slength<br />
agreement, it says if you own up to 10 percent <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>terest <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the<br />
landlord, you have a n<strong>on</strong>-arm's-length agreement.<br />
That would mean, <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> simple terms, if your wife owned the nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g<br />
home, and rented it to you, that would be an arn's-length agreement.<br />
If your brother owned the nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g home, and rented it to you, that<br />
would be an arm's-length agreement, but what is not an arm's-length<br />
agreement is when your wife and you jo<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>tly own it-you have 50<br />
percent and she has 50 percent-and you rent it to yourself, that is not<br />
an arm's-length agreement.<br />
So clearly the terms "arm's-length" and "n<strong>on</strong>-arm's-length" are<br />
not used <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> a bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess sense, but are specialized terms, and they clearly<br />
do not necessarily mean two strangers do<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess together.<br />
The basis for the rentals, as I will show later <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the real estate porti<strong>on</strong><br />
of my delivery, is the rental formula based <strong>on</strong> an historic rent<br />
that was charged <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> either 1966, 1968, or based up<strong>on</strong> the cost of the<br />
c<strong>on</strong>structi<strong>on</strong>.<br />
In New York City, where you have a lot of nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g homes that<br />
were old, and were run as nurs<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g homes for a l<strong>on</strong>g time, most of the<br />
rents are the maximum rental, the arm's-length agreement, and most<br />
of those rents that were charged <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> 1966 and 1968, so those rents, if<br />
they were n<strong>on</strong>-arm's-length, they were not actual ec<strong>on</strong>omic rents, <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />
that period of time, they will rema<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> that way.<br />
Now, for new <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>s which are built. the exist<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g rents <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> 1966<br />
are used as the basis for calculat<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g what is a fair rent.<br />
For example, if you have an <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong> which would c<strong>on</strong>ta<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> 100<br />
beds, and the rents, the average rents for that category of hous<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>g <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />
New York City, or <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> any county of New York was $100,000, then a<br />
new <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong> was built, and was <strong>on</strong> an arm's-length basis, that would<br />
also have the $100,000 maximum rental, so not merely do the 1966<br />
rents affect those <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>s which were rented <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> that period of time,<br />
but they affect all of the other <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>s <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> New York, because they<br />
are used as a basis of fair comparis<strong>on</strong>, so that we have to look very<br />
closely at what happened to those <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>s, and how those rentals<br />
were calculated. and what the cost basis of those <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>stituti<strong>on</strong>s were,<br />
before the medicaid reimbursement formula started to work.<br />
Now, equity, as Mr. Lee will describe, is a cost comp<strong>on</strong>ent, which<br />
is not <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>creased by <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>flati<strong>on</strong>.<br />
It is <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>creased <strong>on</strong>ly by an actual determ<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ati<strong>on</strong> of how much m<strong>on</strong>ey<br />
is left <str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g> the bus<str<strong>on</strong>g>in</str<strong>on</strong>g>ess, of what is d<strong>on</strong>e.