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Mu'tazilites, to the Zaydites, to the Kharijites?"
While Hisham and Muhammed were roaming in a current of suspicions and thoughts and were
reflecting on a doctrine to follow, they saw an old man indicating with his hand to Hisham to
follow him. Hisham thought that the old man was among the spies of al‐Mansur and could
understand their speech. He fearfully turned to his companion and ordered him to go away from
him, that only he might be punished. He followed the old man, and he took him to Imam Musa b.
Ja'far, peace be on him. When he came in to him, he became tranquil. When he sat down, the
Imam turned to him and said to him with kindness and affection: "To me, not to the Murji'ites, nor
to the Qadarities, nor to the Mu'tazilites, nor to the Zaydites...." Hisham became happy, for he
found his objective when the Imam told him about what he had in his inner self. This is one of the
marks and signs of the Imamate. Then Hisham asked him the following question:
‐May I be your ransom, has your father gone?
‐Yes.
‐Has he left through death?
‐Yes.
‐Whom shall we follow after him?
‐If Allah wills, He will guide you to that man.
‐May I be your ransom, your brother 'Abd Allah claims that he is the Imam after his father.
‐'Abd Allah intends that Allah should not be worshipped (properly).
‐Who is in charge of us after him.
He answered him with an answer similar to his first one, and Hisham asked him:
‐Are you him?
‐I am not saying that.
Hisham made a mistake in his speech, and he corrected his mistake, saying:
‐Do you have an Imam over you? ‐No.
He admired and magnified the Imam, to the extent that none knew except Allah. Then he said to
him:
‐May I be your ransom, may I question you like I used to question your father.
‐Question. You will be informed but do not spread (the answer) around. For if you do spread it
around, then slaughter will take place. Then he asked him many questions, to the extent that he
came to know that the Imam was a sea (of knowledge) which could not be exhausted out of his
abundant knowledge and merit. After he had come to know him and been sure of his Imamate, he
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